Vasyl Lomachenko or Naoya Inoue, who ranks higher P4P?

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  1. Pakkuman

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    Really don't know how Inoue was still standing after that brutal right hook in I think the 10th.
     
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  2. JacK Rauber

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    Go to 9:20. If Donaire wasn't 37-years-old he would have beaten Inoue. In their respective primes, Donaire wins this fight. The weight gap may be too great for Loma and Inoue to meet but if they did at 130 I would definitely put my money on Loma. Inoue throws for the fences on virtually every punch. He is hit hard often. I have never seen Loma take anywhere close to the punishment Inoue took against a 37-year-old fighter.

    Rigo defeated Donaire but quit on the stool against Loma. Levels.

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  3. ellerbe

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    Donaire was 36 fighting in a weight class he was huge in and not drained. Rigo was 38 fighting at 130 a weight class he was absolutely tiny in, he’s small for 122 let alone 130 loma himself doesn’t credit himself for that win. Don’t know why u bringing up Rigo as if there is any relevance.
     
  4. JacK Rauber

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    He was 37 nine days later. He is 37 now. I brought up Rigo because he is the common opponent for both Donaire and Loma. Loma stopped Rigo. Rigo defeated Donaire. Donaire, at 37, did real damage to Inoue and went the distance. Regardless of weight, I think the results speak for themselves.
     
  5. ellerbe

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    He was 36 when they fought, but sure make **** up and say he was 37 :risas3: to try and push your agenda more. It doesn't matter if his birthday was the next day, he still would have been 36. Rigo and Warrington have a common opponent in Amagasa. One almost died in Rigo, other one won comfortably. Guess Warrington is levels above Rigo. "Levels". No one cares what you think, the facts are he was an inactive 38 year old moving up 2 weight classes, and the fighter who won himself said it means nothing, so the fact you're bringing it up makes you look like ydskab, or you're just a crazy loma stan. :baloon:
     
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  6. ellerbe

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    Oh, to show my consistency, search for my name and Spence/Mikey or Marquez/Mayweather, and I said the exact same thing. And Mikey was a champ at 140, so he was technically moving up 1 division, and Marquez eventually campaigned at 147. Both these fighters were also active and Marquez was the lineal champ. I still said they deserve no credit @JacK Rauber and I'm huge fans of both. I don't know how you can bring the Rigo fight up in this conversation with a straight face without feeling like a clown.
     
  7. JacK Rauber

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    How can anyone take you seriously? You want to share opinions, fine. You want to act like a jack @ss good luck with that soliloquy.
     
  8. ellerbe

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    I'm a jackass because I'm using your own logic against you lmao. Do you not understand that styles make fights and people can have off nights? Do you think Warrington is better than 2014 Rigo because Rigo completely shat the bed and almost got stopped by Amagasa? If you want to make a case for Loma, just list his opposition, he has fought more total quality opposition. But lying about Nonito's age is just sad :risas3:, then bringing up how Loma beat Rigo as if that has any relevance just screams desperation and Loma stan.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

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    Inoue does. He's in his fourth weight class. Lomachenko is only in his third. Easy math problem. Also, Inoue has moved up 9% of his body weight to Lomachenko's 7%. Inoue has moved up more pounds and a larger share of his body mass. The definition of p4p is who can give up more weight while remaining elite; so far, that's Inoue.
     
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  10. JacK Rauber

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    No, that's not the definition of P4P. P4P means, regardless of weight, in other words looking across all of the weight divisions, who possesses the most talent/skill. A fighter can remain in the same weight division his entire career and still be #1 P4P.
     
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  12. Zhuge Liang

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    As for now, Loma.

    The champions Loma faced were either the best in their respective division, elite P4P material, or multiple class champions. Some of them got the first defeat to Loma.
     
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  14. JacK Rauber

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    Those who are saying Inoue is more deserving are overlooking the fact that Campbell was a bigger, longer fighter than Loma and an Olympic gold medalist as well. Campbell is a tough, no-quit, talented fighter but Loma still managed a decisive victory over him, the bigger man. Inoue is a very talented fighter and deserving of being in the P4P rankings. I just don't think he has the same skill set as Loma. If Loma and Inoue were to meet I think Loma would outclass a more powerful Inoue. He probably wouldn't stop him because Inoue has so much fire and will but I think he could do some serious damage to him, maybe long-term damage. In fact, I would say Donaire did some long-term damage to Inoue, despite Inoue getting the win.