Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Floyd Mayweather, who you got?

This man gets it. The reach advantage is too great then you add the fact that PBF is just as fast as Loma and just as athletic but with better defense and more pop and you have a recipe for disaster for Loma. Loma isn't going to be able to outbox PBF when he can't even find the range to do so and will pay a heavy price just trying to come in against that laser like straight right hand.

 

We both know that's not a good idea, betting cash online. However it doesn't mean I don't fully back Loma vs Crawford. Right now I would pick Loma but if lm real about it, I would like to have if move up first. Even Floyd and Pac didn't fight De La Hoya straight from 130. Crawford is a De la hoya and Mosley level fight. He's very good but he also is walking around at the middle weight limit. Plus Crawford is in his prime, De La Hoya wasn't when he fought those two.

 

Roberto Duran moved up from LW to WW to beat Ray Leonard. He beat him all over the ring with skill. Ray Leonard was the bigger, stronger, longer, faster man. But Duran neutralized Ray's reach advantage with skill. This idea that reach is what matters when it comes to and outcome of a fight, I disagree with that.

Obviously Loma is not Duran I get that, but reach can be navigated.

 

Marquez was 35 years old when he fought Mayweather. He was a natural FW fighting at WW and Floyd missed weight. Obviously you can't assign full credit under those circumstances.

Just like you can't do it for Loma Rigo because of the age and size problems.

 

He never beat the **** out of him, he outpointed him, Leonard did as much damage, people seem to forget that fact and it was a very close contest.

Secondly, Leonard was the guy who embarrassed him all over the ring when he fought his own style, clowned him then made him retire in the ring in the second fight when Leonard fought properly

 

Hamed never won a gold medal. Everybody and I mean EVERYBODY knew that Hamed was a pure puncher with handspeed. His skills were always suspect. He would lead with a left uppercut from four feet away. Plus he was 5'2". Corrales was always know as a puncher as well. Chinny Smoke Gainer was out boxing him till he got caught.

 

Leonard fought properly but Duran didn’t. Duran was overweight, drinking and partying after the win.

 

The only one who was wobbled, hurt and stunned in that fight was Ray Leonard.

Leonard could only fight his fight when Ray was fat and out of shape. When Duran was in shape he dictated the terms of the fight. The ring is only so big. Against a great fighter like Duran who was still only 29 when he fought Leonard you can't just run away. He will find you, he will throw punches.

The point is reach does not mean you can control the fight. Rigo had a reach advantage over Loma too.

 

Leonard didn't fight properly the first time either!!! So no excuses

 

He was stunned once in the second round, like I said - close contest

Leonard fought a proper second fight when he decided to just outslick and made him quit. Had he fought that way in the first fight and listened to his brother, Leonard would have easily won that 1st fight too.

Leonard is the better fighter when all things are considered. More dimensions to his game.

 

What's he supposed to do dip****? Run away? It's a squared ring. You can't run away from a prime Roberto Duran. He will find you and he will punch.

 

He clearly outboxed him thoroughly the second time and made him quit. That's a fact.

Duran was so embarrassed he quit, remember?

 

He did, he just fought the wrong style, but he took it seriously. Duran didn’t take the rematch seriously, I think both at their peak and SRL would still have won but no denying that Duran was nowhere near fighting shape in the rematch.

 

I don't think Loma or Floyd are the greatest fighters that ever lived. I DO think that they are one of the best fighters in their time period.

 

Who are we to say who took what seriously? No one knows besides the two fighters.

What we do know is that Leonard showed more dimensions in his game in the two fights than Duran and that's what made the difference in the second fight.

Had Leonard fought that way the first time around, SRL would NOT have lost that fight. He was simply consumed with anger that fight due to Duran's antics outside of it and wanted to punish him for it.

He fought that way the second fight because he wanted revenge and wanted to clown/embarrass him and Duran could do nothing about it tbh.