Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Floyd Mayweather, who you got?

PBF has a tremendous reach advantage against Loma it's huge and would be a big problem in this fight. PBF knows how to control range and dictate distance as good as anyone in boxing history. Loma will have to go through hell to try to get in range without paying a heavy price by getting hit with PBF's straight right hand. I have yet to see anyone come up with a scenario as to how Loma gets in range enough on PBF to score points and win rounds when PBF's footwork and footwspeed is just as good as Loma's, this isn't a video game. He's not a guy that will sell out to get in especially not against a guy with the reflexes like PBF who can counter and is as accurate with his straight right hand as PBF has. Also PBF had power at 130 to hurt Loma and make him think twice and Loma cuts an busts up easily. His face would be torn to shreads against PBF. Lastly PBF's physical strength is very underrated he would be stronger than Loma at 130 and could push him around if need be.

 

Well yea if Mayweather lands his straight right hand often enough then he will win a decision or stoppage.

So how does Loma win at 130 and get past the right hand? Well for one at 130 Loma has a higher ring IQ. I'm not talking about the more seasoned Mayweather 4-5 years later, but the 130 FMJ. Loma is 29 years old now and has fought 3 high level pro fighters. He's had 397 amateur fights and been boxing for multiple decades constantly honing his craft. Young FMJ isn't seasoned to that level. Second, Loma's footwork is very good, better than any of Mayweather's opponents. He's always balanced and always in position. Third, Loma changes levels which is something that Mayweather's opponents haven't really used that much. Fourth, Loma is a master fainter which he can use to get Mayweather to shoot a jab or get a little out of position. Loma is so incredibly quick that he only needs the very slightest of openings to get inside.

Obviously Mayweather is longer, more accurate and better defensively than anybody Loma has faced. But Floyd's going to have to bring some offense in this fight. If that right hand does not find the mark he's going to lose this fight. He'll have to dispense with the jab more than usual because Loma's a southpaw and that shoulder is going to be in the way.

 

I’ve seen some genuine posts from t-Rex arms Willis in the past, I’m just trying to inspire him.

 

Control range? Don't make me laugh. Wasn't Rigo meant to do that with his longer reach?
Since when has lomachenko ever been controlled by a jab?
He has so much lateral movement it makes reach obsolete.
Floyd doesn't have the footwork. All that leaning back on the ropes behind his shoulder to try and counter punch will never work against Loma. He does not get countered! Statically Loma gets hit less than Floyd, he hits the target more than Floyd he throws more punches than Floyd.
Floyds best chance would be to cheat the scales and try and walk him down

 

Rigo isn't half the fighter than FMJ is. At 130 you have to make Loma the favorite though. FMJ just doesn't have the seasoning to be favored over Loma right now.

 

Marriaga(from countering) was landing on Loma, what do you think 130lb FMJ would do?

 

The problem with this is that PBF always lands with his right hand he has never failed in his pro career to do so effectively and at times setting compubox records for accuracy and power punch landed %. IMO it's alot of wishful thinking to suggest anything else. There isn't that much adjustment to be made maybe two that PBF would need to neutralize Loma. He could either fight off his back foot very cautiously beating Loma to the punch from the outside pot shotting him looking to catch Loma coming and then move back away out of range in which there is nothing Loma can really do to offset that. Which would lead to him becoming frustrated and prone to jumping in more recklessly and eating a flush counter by a master counterpuncher that could end his night. Or at times he can get inside with Loma push him around and get the better of him on the inside where Loma can be had by bigger stronger fighters.

Lastly you're also criminally underrating PBF's defense he was great on defense since his days as an AM he got that nickname PBF because he hardly got touched. Also what you fail to realize is that Loma would have a very hard time trying to figure PBF out as he's never seen anyone like him with his combination of speed accuracy reach reflexes footwork countering defense pop ring IQ and stamina before. It would be a very tall order for Loma to outpoint a master boxer like PBF at 130. You keep talking about seasoning a young 20 year old PBF tooled a seasoned and undefeated ATG at 130 in Genaro Hernandez. I still say PBF's performance against Chico at 130 is the best exhibition of the sweet science of that era. That version of PBF who fought Chico takes Loma apart and stops him.

 

Makes reach obsolete??? I might put that line in my sig and so everyone else can see that whenever I post so they can see how stupid you're.
Jesus ****ing Christ!

Only a complete novice would say PBF has no footwork. The guy can fight at all ranges and is always in the position to counter with great balance and movement. When you say something like that it's so easy to spot that you don't know **** about boxing. PBF has some of the best footwork of the era jackass. Also when you combine PBF with his footwork and his reach and his boxing brain it very much doesn't make reach obsolete. Do you think boxing is a video game?

Rigo is the smaller man moving up 2 weights he was past his best and was 37 dummy. What part of that do you not understand. On top of that Rigo is no PBF.

 

Not sure you’re sounding very logical here Loma would have to up his volume versus Floyd which would make him naturally more susceptible to Floyd’s right cross even Rigo’s less educated defensive prowess frustrated Loma and he missed a good amount and while Rigondeaux counters were less frequent some did land though the smaller older man was clearly outgunned.

Successful counter punchers are more accurate when standing in the placket within range all the fancy footwork can be used more efficiently and effectively when in good position not when your overusing energy and space. If you think Loma is going to stay on his toes using lateral movement to box Floyd without eating power shot counters from a longer, bigger accurate and intelligent counter puncher like Floyd then you’re delusional.

 

Prime vs prime @ 130 this is an intriguing fight. Floyd hasnt fought that many skilled boxer types as his team have always been very good at selecting stylistically suitable opponents for FMJ.

Ditto Floyd bringing various things to the table that Lomachenko has never faced.

I will say that when he faced with guys with speed and decent defence who could fight on the move that Floyd wasnt exactly a Joe Frazier type.

Gustavo Cuello, Gregorio Vargas both managed to give Floyd decent fights at 130 so I cant see why someone like Lomachenko couldnt do even better.

Too close to call.

 

Lomachenko has made a career out of evading punches. He has the best statistical defensive record in history.
But he's just change his whole style and get punched constantly against mayweather? Dream on

 

PBF can hit him dummy because with his huge reach advantage he's on the of the most accurate boxers in history with one of the best right hands and counter punchers in history you dumb novice. This is backed up by Compubox Stats. Remember you said this gem "His lateral footwork makes reach obsolete" There's a reason why another poster called you out on your ridiculous post dummy.

Let me school your stupid ass right now once and for all. PBF's long arms are a big advantage because he's just as athletic as Loma is, he has better reflexes and he can move he's not some stiff. He also has faster hands and is a better counter puncher to boot. If you don't think Loma wouldn't get lit up with his short ass arms trying to come in you're dumber than I thought your were. Loma's defense isn't on the level of PBF, Pea Whitaker or Willie Pep. What you should be asking yourself is how is Loma going to land consistently on a top 3 defensive fighter of all time who's defense is proven at 5 weights against much better comp than Loma has faced.

For the last time throw the Rigo fight out of the window he was fighting at 37 past prime guy who moved up 2 weight classes to fight him that fight has no bearing on how PBF would look against Loma, it's irrelevant.

 

And PFBF's defense is trash right? LMFAO. Where do these dumbass alts come from?

 

Lol yeah we'll just throw the rigo fight out the window. It never happened lol what a troll. Shall we throw the Marquez fight out the window as well shall we?
In my eyes floyds best performance was against Canelo, Floyd was 37 at the time. Rigo was still sharp at 37 and he was not beaten purely on size.
Pernell Whitaker? Don't make me laugh.

 

Are you really going to say that "some" landed when the man landed 15 punches in 6 rounds according to the stats. And not a single one landed flush. Also, Loma is a volume puncher, he throws more volume than Mayweather. I can't roll with you saying Rigo was landing. And the Rigo fight means little in a hypothetical Loma vs FMJ fight. But no, Rigo sucked and did nothing to Loma.

Also, Loma was frustrated against Rigo you say? On the contrary Loma never showed one instance of mental fatigue or annoyance. It was Rigo who was so frustrated that he quit after the 6th round.

Yes it's a possibility that Loma can avoid the right hand. And that scares some people who are big fans of Floyd because since Loma is a highly skilled southpaw Floyd must land hard right hands to win this fight.

It comes down to this, if FMJ lands his straight right consistently he wins. If Loma parries, blocks, avoids the right hand he wins.