Vasyl Lomachenko vs Naoya Inoue p4p debate

1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. Inoue
4. Usyik
5. Canelo
6. GGG

1 and 2 are interchangeable wouldn’t argue either way.
Same as 3 and 4
And 5 and 6..

Canelo has a strong case if he happens to destroy Kovalev.
Usyik as well with 2 dominant wins at heavyweight.
Inoue is very close.. if he knocks out Donaire and Nery.

It’s subjective but that’s how I have it atm..

 

Crolla and Campbell weren't equivalently better than Inoue's last two victims, and Inoue isn't having tough fights with mediocre opposition, he is blasting them out early.

 

Campbell is much better than crolla

 

Lomas takes it on quality of opposition fought, variety of styles his opponents have, belts won & the records/firsts he's set.. he's more nuanced & skilled than Inoue too who has great power & brilliant technique but watching Loma is like watching a martial artist almost lol.. he's just unique.. his movement, his training methods, his ring IQ..

 

7. Estrada
8. Spence
Estrada had great win over Rungvisai.. where he splits 1-1. Great skill and has been operating at that level for nearly a decade.
Neck to neck with Canelo as the current best Mexican fighter.
Not overly impressed with Spence, though he looks like a monster at his current weight class.. need better opposition.

 

I agree, Crolla was trash, Campbell is mediocre, and he has no career defining win, against a top level guy to back up anyone's opinion that he is indeed more than a Euro level guy. Loma fans were just trashing Lopez for having a tough night against that tall Asian kid who could actually box a bit. Now they turn around and make excuses for Loma having a tough outing with Campbell. Fairly hypocritical.

 

I say loma,s the most skilled. I think inoue,s the best of them all tho. The guys absolutely leathal. In terms of resume i,d again go for loma. But the same as usyk...i think as fighters their both overated. Terrific level of skill tho....especially loma...who stands alone in terms of skill atm. The russians have came up with a terrific style...which what i can see essentialy relys on getting the opponent working harder than they want to be working....

Because its a high skill based style. To keep them at bay the opponent has to work...before long they end up getting drowned.

You can see a couple of styles that can beat it tho. Length....and probably a huge weight drainer or a solid puncher. The first guy that beat him used his weight to bully him. Campbells not a world beater...to me he made lomachenko look pretty ordinary with his length and gameplan. Loma looked frustrated at times. Weather theres a guy out there to beat him is another conundrum but after saturday i,d give davis a chance. I,d also give slightly heavier guys a chance to best him. His style wont be able to do what mayweather and pacman did. He,ll find that its him that ends up working harder than he wants to be working when he goes up too much in weight as opposed to the heavier/stronger opponent working harder than they want to be working.

Inoue looks a different bread to me tho. Not on the skill level of loma. Not even close in terms of skill. No one today is tbf.

Hes ultra effective tho. Good sound boxer. Hits like a mule with every punch. Fast with it and relentless in his attack. Everyone can get beat....but his style looks harder to beat than lomachenko,s barring a lucky punch. The russisns/ukrainians have came up with great styles in recent years but it does have a slight flaw in it. No one can touch them when their young and at their peak. It doesnt age great tho cause it relys on high energy. I can see it having a weight ceiling more than mayweather/pacman as well. Weight bullies....strong punchers and length will cause the style problems. Just needs someone good enough. Like canelo against golovkin. No one was raving about canelo being the absolute best not after the mayweather fight anyway. Same with linares and campbell...yet they all gave them competetive enough fights tho. They wouldnt even be competetive...if these guys we,re as good as everyones saying.

Canelo shrunk down would best lomachenko. I think if you shrink him down again against inoue...he,d lose that fight tho.

Loma is the most skilled fighter in the world today tho.

 

I would personally side with Loma, purely based on resume. GRJ, Walters and Linares are all cracking wins.

Inoue is excellent though, has youth on his side and obviously frightening power.