Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Orlando Salido RBR ~ Did Lomachenko Actually Lose Or Was He Robbed?

It's no coincidence Loma had his last child in 2013.

Though he as adopted several sons during his career.

 

If any other Eastern Euro got an L hung on them by a 36 year old has been then his career would be set back 5 years. Loma then got a world title after losing to a 36 year old B- level fighter.

Christ, Kovalev wasnt even getting paid!!!!

 

He lost .. albeit the Mexican should have been disqualified.. but history will show he lost , doesn't matter anyway it was only a second pro fight .. I think he would have paddled salidos ass in a rematch

 

Wow, this was exactly five years ago last Wednesday that you asked me this, but uh...better late than never?

I stand by my draw:

Through nine rounds, I had Salido up 87-84 and really thought he had it in the bag by that point, just due to their respective body language. Lomachenko dug deep, did well to turn it around in the championship rounds and swept them (and if he was given another minute or so might have actually stopped Salido in the midst of that hard rally) but before that it was very rough going. Siri of course was dirty as hell but Vasyl was running and clinching nearly as much as he was getting fouled and was very clearly overwhelmed by the physicality.

Also, it can never be said enough: Laurence Cole was a pile of warmed over ferret crap as third man in the ring. Lampley calling him out as a dreadful ref and a black eye on boxing in Texas remains one of my favorite moments of his on-air. Salido surely wouldn't have had that 87-84 lead in the ninth on my card (and may in fact have been DQed long before then) with a competent official enforcing the rules properly.

So to answer your titular question: neither, IMO. Didn't lose, nor get robbed.

 

I thought Salido won barely on points, but the fact is the whole fight stunk. Salido come into the ring way above the Featherweight limit he cheated and never made weight, and was 147 pounds basically a Welterweight. Salido was also constantly allowed to low blow Lomachenko with about 100 low blows from a biased incompetent referee. And even in the last round when Lomachenko had Salido going, he was allowed to hold on like an octopus vs Lomachenko without any warning or possible point deductions for excessive holding.

Overall the fight should of never of been allowed to happen because Salido was a Welterweight, he also should of been DQ'ed for the excessive low blows. If the fight was on a level playing field then I don't think Lomachenko loses. But overall he technically lost a very close decision IMO with all those things against him.

 

Most well reasoned, persuasively argued post on the thread.

Cheers.
(Ps...I also had the fight a draw, though I never felt that a grave injustice had been committed).

 

1. Salido missed weight significantly "Salido, 33, of Mexico, failed to make weight and was stripped of his belt at the weigh-in. He was 128¼ pounds, well over the 126-pound limit. And he weighed 11 pounds more than Lomachenko at the start of the contest. Boxing Insider, "Salido showed up heavy for the fight."
2. The ref was clearly paid off, allowing low blows and other roughhousing tactics, and giving Salido time to recover when Loma was going to finish the fight.
3. As you've said, clearly paid off judges.

 

One thing, I don't think Cole's performance must needs indicate that he was necessarily paid off. He's a demonstrably VERY bad referee, many times over. It could well be attributed to idiocy and incompetence. Were it any other ref yes, the first obvious conclusion would be corruption, but when talking Laurence Cole...