Vasyl Lomachenko vs Oscar Valdez 130 who wins

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Feb 21, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Lomachenko Decision

    66.7%
  2. Lomachenko Knockout

    20.6%
  3. Valdez Decision

    3.2%
  4. Valdez Knockout

    9.5%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    before teo, some were picking loma against the likes of duran, chavez, arguello, etc... because they were letting their feelings speak for them, instead of the evidence they were seeing. excusing the loss to salido, because of this and that, and now doing a slightly modified version on teo.
    i certainly favor loma over valdez, he is much more complete and would be at his ideal weight vs oscar. but pretending valdez has no shot, is done to inflate loma, again. valdez has a quick and accurate left that can hurt anyone. he can throw it wide, to get around your glove, or he can throw it tight to catch your chin. that alone is going to take away half of lomas offensive angles, whenever he angles to his right, a left hook will be waiting. and loma is not a young man anymore, he is a past prime speedster whos body is starting to show the years of stress. thats what i see happening.
     
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Salido fight does not need excuses, this was U.S business fight not boxing fight.
    If Loma was U.K boxer and fight had happened in U.K, Salido had lost this one by DQ.
    Also Salido already had lost this fight before fight happened: he had lost belt on scales.

    To compare Lopez with Salido is weird: Lopez offered clean boxing and had made weight in limit, with this alone had proved that he is pro.
    Yeah, he barely defeated Loma, regardless from all comments in internet.
    Still he is level above Salido. Level above.
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    if my aunt had balls........ fact is, mikey toyed with a better salido, made him look drunk, mikey must be several levels above then.
     
  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If pro boxing was fighting as proof for masculinity, they had allowed at least MMA rules there.

    Otherwise: to entertain hypocrite U.S boxing fans in their cubicles. Nothing more usage pro boxing does not have for real life in U.S.
    If you assume this as fighting and " balls ". :D
     
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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    its an american saying, which i realize you arent familiar with or understand. the saying is "if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle." which means, talking about ifs, means nothing...its what actually IS, that matters.
     
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  6. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lorun, runs!
     
  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I think you are right when it comes to Valdez's left hook nullifying Loma's sliding out to his right. The hook could nullify Loma's jab if Valdez counters it well. Loma can't keep his hands holstered for 6 rounds like he did against Teo.
     
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  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, he doesnt even have to land clean to make it an issue, just aiming at his chest will halt lomas progress and keeps him off balance. i would be looking to see how loma gets around it, or if he just abandons his movement to the right. guys who throw straight punches need to turn with loma to keep him in their sights, a good hooker can just meet him with their hook. thats why you dont circle into a fighters power hand, you turn him in the other direction.
     
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  9. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Valdez has had 3 fights at the weight and beat the guy who was arguably #1 in the division.

    Theres no need to let this fight wait
     
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  10. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Lomachenko should fight Valdez in the Summer, and Stevenson should fight the HerringpFrampton winner.

    The winners fight at the end of the year.

    In my opinion, it will be Loma vs Stevenson
     
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  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, but Lomachenko is fighting at 135 not 130.
     
  12. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can still make 130 no problem.
     
  13. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    It depends on how well Loma can go down comfortably to 130. He has been fighting in 135 for the past 3 years. It sure makes his body more adapted to his current class and more difficult to cut weight.

    But if he can do it, well the answer is pretty obvious.
     
  14. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma stops him inside 8.
     
  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is capable to do this without extra damage. 126 lbs = not sure. Despite this might be best weight class for his frame and reach.
    He had stayed in ammies too long, still after 2 Gold Medals in Olympic boxing he had 0 problems to make 126 lbs limit despite he already was mature adult.
    Guys might be larger with time when they are 18-24, later usually not that much bulk up. after 24.