Vasyl Lomachenko vs Oscar Valdez 130 who wins

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Feb 21, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Lomachenko Decision

    66.7%
  2. Lomachenko Knockout

    20.6%
  3. Valdez Decision

    3.2%
  4. Valdez Knockout

    9.5%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    Bit of a generalised statement, but okay.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    its got enough truth to bother the excuse crafters.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Serge likes Valdez too, not fake like

    Real like

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    Prime pre-injury-ravaged absolute ring magician Loma vs Valdez? Loma via bad beatdown TKO 5-7 100,000%

    This 2021 version of Loma vs Valdez? Loma TKO10-11
     
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  4. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Lomachenko by domination, likely stoppage.
     
  5. 15Hosier2004

    15Hosier2004 I tell people what they do not want to hear Full Member

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    Lomachenko 100% wins this
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma is probably the best of a stacked 135lb division, yet alone 130lbs.

    people who blindly go by results are ******ed. It’s like assuming Ruiz > Joshua based on the first fight or that Wilder = Fury.

    One fight doesn’t decide who the better fighter is, it’s like football, the worse team can win.

    Loma by stoppage, absolute domination.
     
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  7. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    Probably, think he deserved to lose to Lopez for the first half of the fight, feel the Salido stuff is baiting.

    Whatever helps people I guess.
     
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  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lopez got lucky because of Loma's low output and tentative start. It was nothing to do with Lopez' skill set. He just threw more than Lomachenko and won the rounds.

    However, when they exchanged Loma got the better of every single exchange.
    Lopez won it in the first half by reducing Loma's work rate to virtually nothing. He did not win it on skill.

    No wonder he won't give Loma a rematch. He knows lightning does not strike twice. I just hope Uncle Bob has a good few paydays lined up for him otherwise people will just demand the rematch.
     
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  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Loma has been on the very top of the P4P, above the names you mentioned. Except Crawford, which people have had 1 or 2 with each other. Loma is a very well respected fighter and rightfully so. The problem is his fans. These guys act like he just can't be beat in a fair exchange. Loma was supposed to make Lopez look lost in there. After the fight comes the excuses, shoulder, Lopez was a giant. Now Valdez's name is brought up and here the fans go again. Valdez has no chance. Loma will make him look terrible in a one sided beat down. Valdez has speed and power. To say he has no chance is foolish.
     
  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Apart from they're not excuses they're completely valid. It's objective and there to see that Lopez is far bigger than Loma. Size is a massive factor and can very easily negate any skill advantage. Loma actually had evidence of his surgery and he clearly explains that he decided not to throw volume in the first half as he didn't want to fight the whole fight with a completely ****ed shoulder. Loma doesn't seem the type to lie about this ****... Lopez on the other hand
     
  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Your point about size advantages are valid, which begs the question, why would Loma go forward with a fight that he gives up so many advantages, of which you pointed out, with only 1 good arm? The word from his team was, Loma would have retired instead of postponing. That, to me, makes absolutely no sense. He would risk a loss, maybe by knockout, instead of postponing? GENIUS!!!! He has nothing to gain from moving forward with the fight.

    Personally, I think Loma is too proud. Which normally isn't a bad thing for a fighter. I believe pride cost him the Salido fight and the Lopez fight. Take Salido. I think Loma felt disrespected that Salido intentionally came in over weight, with every intention of moving up after the fight. Loma, instead of boxing like we know he's capable of doing, decided to prove to Salido that his weight advantage means nothing and pretty much fought to Salido's strengths. In the Lopez fight, I think he felt it would be showing too much respect to Lopez postponing the fight and that his pride told him he doesn't need to be 100% to beat Lopez and that he'd rather retire before postponing. Of course this is my opinion and mine alone, but are the only scenarios that make sense to me. Dude should be undefeated.
     
  12. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the fight I was to see.

    Loma shouldn't be at 135, hes wasting his best years fighting in a division he doesn't have to.

    Ive said it before, let Loma fight Valdez. Stevenson fight the Herring-Frampton winner, then the winners fight in a massive fight at the end of the year
     
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    If your opinion is correct, Loma's skills and talent make up for what he lacks in his dome. A brain.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    His skills have never been a question.
     
  15. Canning Town

    Canning Town Tokyo2021 banned Full Member

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    Nobody comes close to beating Loma at super feather.