Vasyl Lomachenko vs Richard Commey likely for December 11th

its pointless, and loma doesnt need stay busy fights, he needs meaningful fights.

 

A quick review of the lightweight landscape makes clear that there really isn't a more credible alternative.

Does anybody, for example, believe Loma wouldn't fight Tank in a heartbeat? Similarly, the kid has been chomping at the bit for the Teo rematch, but that fight isn't happening either. Nor is Commey a "soft touch" by any stretch.

Lomachenko, fair observers would readily concede, doesn't come to collect paychecks.

Context matters.

 

then hes getting what he can, not what he needs.

 

For legacy purposes, Loma needs the Lopez rematch.

That said, taking a fight against a tough, generally durable, back-half-of-the top ten opponent is absolutely meaningful.

Lacing 'em up against some no-hoper cab driver, on the other hand, would not be meaningful.

 

meaningful if he loses, what will beating him mean?

 

Clearly, we have different definitions of "meaningful."

The more meaningful question, however, is what would you have him do in the interim??

 

move up or down, and test himself further, if theres no tests to be found where hes at.

 

While that aspirational stuff sounds good on a keyboard, it's also usually unrealistic. This is another case in point.

Lomachenko very obviously does not belong at 140lbs, so the notion of testing himself at a weight in which he would be even less effective than in the division he's presently campaigning in makes little practical sense from a career standpoint.


Consequently, the only reasonable proposition would be to move down, which then begs the question: who at 130lbs would represent an acceptable challenge?

I can only think of two: Stevenson, who seems destined to fight Herring in the fall, and Valdez, who if I'm not mistaking already has a dance partner.

So I ask again: what would you have Lomachenko do in the interim??

 

loma is quality, he can find someone at 140 to add to his legacy, whether he belongs there or not. mikey, who loma was suppose to school, according to his fans, does not belong at 147, but he got paid 5 million in his fight there, AFTER he got washed by spence. cause hes quality, and isnt afraid to push his limits.

 

Yes, Mikey moved up to 147 and demonstrated that he didn't belong at that weight and perhaps wouldn't even be competitive with the best in that class.

While I believe Loma would be more competitive with the best at 140 than Mikey was with the best of 147, I am quite confident he could not beat them (Taylor, Prograis etc).

Perhaps Lomachenko and his team had enough boxing acumen to deduce what Mikey and his so obviously couldn't.

Pushing limits is one thing; fighting at a weight at which your ceiling is absurdly low is career malpractice.

But what do I care if Mikey made $5 million for the Spence fight? I didn't pocket a dime of those earnings. Financial considerations are irrelevant to our conversation. And what did the Spence fight do for Mikey's legacy? Nothing.

Lomachenko is already fighting above his ideal weight. Consequently, fighting another top 10-ish opponent at 135 while he awaits the Lopez rematch is eminently reasonable, defensible, and meaningful.

 

you dont think a win over vargas, a top 10 ww when he fought him, in mikeys 5th division, adds to his legacy? i think you and i understand boxing on completely different levels.

 

Spare me your condescending BS. I understand boxing as well as you or anybody else on here.

I mentioned Spence, not Vargas. Did the Vargas win add to Mikey's legacy? Sure....at the margins.

Imagine, however, if he had moved down to 140lbs and defeated the best at that weight and grabbed some straps, then sought to unify the rest. That would be far more consequential to his legacy than beating Vargas.

In the end, if Loma can beat Commey, continuing his "clean out the contenders" tour at 135lbs, and then beat with what I consider the best in the division, all in a class above his ideal weight, it will burnish his legacy more than collecting a name at 140lbs.

 

Oh no, Loma taking on ANOTHER top 5 contender and being flamed for it by haters.

 

tt's a solid fight ... it'll get more eyeballs on ESPN that Lopez v kombozo will get on whatever ppl channel they are on.

It Valdez, Herring/Stevenson won't fight at 130lbs then what other quality options are there?

 

Gota fill in time until teofimo ready, Cant see him fighting anyone else untill after the teofimo fight, he wants those belts back and hes waiting on teos covid ass.