Vasyl Lomachenko vs Roberto Duran...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by 70sFan, Dec 30, 2017.


  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lopez would likely be a WW in the 70's, but Loma would probably be a LW still. I don't think too many classic LWs (135 on the afternoon/night) would beat Lopez.

    Salido was probably over 140 as well, when they met at 126.

    I think Duran vs Loma would be a great fight at 135, with same day weigh in.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    You responded with personal attacks: you don't know anything, same old tired tropes from a modernist, and you've never weighed in for anything.


    Very reasonable? I didn't agree that Buchanan "mugs" Lomachenko, so you started throwing personal insults around.

    Like I said, grow up. I didn't even say Loma beats Buchanan, just 'he doesn't get mugged.'

    If you have to go straight to personally insulting someone, you've got nothing to offer.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

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    Now you've done it. (LOL)
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Its a good think this board wasn't around when Duran lost to De Jesus or Kirkland Lang, As for as the no mas fight here? forgetaboutit.
     
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  5. Man_Machine

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    My word!

    Right - This will no doubt appear to you as a fierce insult so, brace yourself - but, do you think you could stop acting like such a whiny child, please? (Look, I even wrote "please")

    This was my initial post, in response to your reply to me...

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-roberto-duran.599616/page-9#post-20704937

    Nothing like you've just described above and so, I didn't go "straight to personally insulting someone".

    The stuff you've described came later, after you elected to ignore most of the reasonable points and act like a cocky know-it-all (as you so often do).

    It really is somewhat amusing that you, who routinely treats fellow posters on these boards, as though they are idiots (and have done exactly that on this thread), are now playing the victim here.

    You telling anyone to grow up, given your track record, shows a deep lack of self-awareness on your part. You should take your own advice and give yourself a hard slap in the process.

    Buchanan is a greater Lightweight than Lomachenko is ever likely to be. That's the reality here, whether you can bear it or not.
     
  6. Dubblechin

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    (LOL) I have zero interest in Buchanan or Lomachenko, or Lomachenko-Lopez, which is why I haven't commented at all on any of it.

    I was just reading this thread today and disagreed when you said Buchanan MUGS Lomachenko. That's it.

    I haven't personally insulted any poster on this thread, including you, who has been personally insulting me for hours.

    All I did was disagree that Buchanan would MUG Lomachenko. And, in response, you seem to want to insult me over and over again until I say something insulting to you in return.

    But I'm going to pass. You've offered nothing to prove the point I disagreed with. And I still disagree with it.
     
  7. Man_Machine

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    Of course you don't... ...Of course you haven't...

    Yeah - sure looks like you don't care about Buchanan or Lomachenko, or Lomachenko-Lopez and haven't comment on any of it.


    You do realise that there's a written record of what has transpired during this exchange, don't you?


    Neither have I - unless you call this an insult:

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    or this:

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    Yeah - I really unleashed hell there, with those PG-Rated comments, didn't I? :lol:

    What's more, is that there is nothing in those comments, which does not pertain to a truth, as is the case for my comments about your acting like a whiny child.

    Get over it.


    I can assure you, I haven't dedicated even a single hour, let alone hourS to you. And the two seemingly offensive comments above took less than 20 seconds to type.


    We've established that there were possibly two offensive comments inside an hour so, this^ is just more of the same hyperbolic whining from you.

    Give it a rest. Your feigning some kind of moral injury and automatic high-ground here is really childish and quite cringeworthy stuff.

    You know, BS'ing people can be just as insulting, if not more so, than an outright affront? And, you've scored high on the BS-ometer, during this exchange.


    Good.


    It was never my intention to change your mind, just to address your initial rationale for disagreeing - and I did just that. Because, yours was a sweeping, contrary statement, with some irrelevant points, which one supposes were meant to back up your assertion but, in any case, were flattened.

    Since then, you have ignored numerous of the points I have made and have instead inserted irrelevancies including, in the process, the invention of points I am supposed to have made, according to you, but didn't. So, I don't really care if you think I've insulted you because, if you're going to pull that type of nonsense then you've got it coming.

    And, by the way, your disagreeing with something is not an argument. You still disagreeing with something is still not an argument.
     
  8. Bokaj

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    :) Some caveats are always in order, since it might just happen that Lopez is emberessed in his next fight. Those things happen in boxing after all. Have done before and will again.

    But the simple point is that someone who's 150 lbs in the ring and has terrific hand speed and power for that weight, doesn't have to be Duran or Robinson skill wise to pose a big challenge for anyone who's 135-140 lbs in the ring, no matter how good.
     
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  9. Bokaj

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    To answer the OP, when you have two guys that both look terrific you have to go with the more proven fighter. I did so with Loma-Lopez and do so with Khabib-Ghaetje (UFC) tomorrow, and Duran in the case of this discussion. That's the sound generic choice, but doesn't always mean you're right of course. Might be the case for me tomorrow as well.