Vasyl Lomachenko vs Salvador Sanchez @130

"A hater of chavez" lmao only because i said that he fought a lot of tomato cans and he lost against the greatest fighters the he fought

 

He certainly fought a ton of no-hopers (including but not limited to his first 40+ fights). And back in the 80s and 90s, people put WAY too much emphasis on his padded win stats. I think he was fortunate to receive the W against LaPorte and at best *extremely lucky* to get that last-second stoppage against Taylor. The Whitaker draw was one of the worst major fight robberies of all time. And I have suspicions about him that I won’t get into here.

But that being said, the man was clearly a very, very good fighter. Arguably one of the most skilled pressure fighters of all time. He had a great run in the late 80s and dominated some good fighters in ways that they’d never been beaten before. When people call him great, they’re not really referring to the cab drivers—they’re referring to his performance those fights.

 

Does Chavez hold the record for consecutive wins in title bouts? He was a terror from 130-140.

 

He cut it close in the last round but there wasn't anything lucky about those overhand rights he was drilling Taylor with. He was Fortunate that Steele didn't favor the Ameican fighter on Ameican soil. We have seen that happen before.

I agree on the Whitaker decision. Chavez was no Welterweight. Would have like to see that fight at 135lbs in the late 80s.

 

No, but he was extremely lucky that Taylor was momentarily distracted by Duva and that Steele decided not to give Taylor the benefit of the doubt. By the way, I don't have a major problem with Steele calling the fight there but anyone who pretends that most refs would have done so is either biased or kidding himself.

 

Given Taylor the benefit of the doubt? Why would he do that? That would be favoring one fighter. I believe anyone in Steele position that close to Taylor would of stopped it unless they were either crooked or very negligent. That is the #1 reason he is there to protect the boxers.

Meldrick Taylor's face had ring death written all over it. Steele was closer to it than all of us.

 

The benefit of the doubt as a professional fighter who had just gone 12 rounds in a very important fight, and was on his feet. That's not favoritism at all. The stoppage was extremely controversial for a reason, and I seriously, seriously doubt that most good refs would have called the fight then, that quickly and with so little time left in the fight (whether we think that should be irrelevant or not). Taylor was in very bad shape but he was on his feet and it most certainly would not have been crooked or negligent to give him a chance to defend himself against at least one more attack (if any). Steele could have given him another second or two to respond, or he could have told Taylor to put his gloves up and walk toward him, among other things. It's perfectly fine to be ok with the stoppage but describing it as if it was absolutely necessary, or even likely, is a bit too much, imo.

 

Lomachenko

 

Why?

Styles favor Sanchez...resume favors Sanchez...

Sanchez is definitely way more mentally tough than Lomo

 

It very well could be but with Gomez we are talking levels of talent in a conventional style sense he did everything better and with power......Loma is a skill master with unnatural foot mastery, fast hands imagine a Willie Pep with a cruel streak where his goal is to slap you silly make you miss and look so bad to the point your greatness is in question and you quit in humiliation......his style destroys a fighter psychologically the same as a stoic Chavez or Hagler beating the fight out of a fighter is nearly equal because of physicality the difference is until they realize they cannot win they have a fighting chance with Loma it starts in the 1st round......I also believe he hits harder than he shows...he likes to sting fighters with punches but not hurt them he seems to enjoy the mental part of hurting fighters while they are still concious enough to feel humiliated

 

Sanchez would sure as sugar show him things he's never seen before and take him to places he's never been. It's far too early for me to be favoring Lomachenko. History tells us they all get tested at some point.

 

You brought him up in a thread that had nothing to do with him (nor had he been mentioned by others) in order to sink the knife in yet again LOL.

Cya when you get back

 

Sanchez doesn't have the gifts Lomo has. Lomo is a very special fighter.
There's nothing that shows me Sanchez was more mentally tough or that his style is favored. Neither even make any sense.

 

See this is where I disagree..Sanchez had special gifts. He was one of those elite talents in history...at times he looked like Willie Pep with power

It makes sense to me. Sanchez has the footwork athleticism movement to keep up with lomos angles, and the speed power combination punching and heart to trade on the inside. It would be a war... but Sanchez is the more proven seasoned fighter. When things got tough Sanchez got toucher. When fighters fought great, Sanchez became greater. He had that SRL mystique. An all time clutch fighter. Lomo I suspect is a bit of a front runner, but I could be wrong.

 

Not denying anything you say about Sanchez. He was great no doubt about it. Loma I believe will go down as one of those very very rare fighters that just make everything look so effortless and easy