Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Sugar Ray Robinson, who takes it?

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Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Sugar Ray Robinson, who takes it?

  1. Vasyl Lomachenko Points

    13.1%
  2. Vasyl Lomachenko KO

    12.1%
  3. Draw

    4.7%
  4. Sugar Ray Robinson Points

    7.5%
  5. Sugar Ray Robinson KO

    62.6%
  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on he's the dumbest man who's ever lived.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo quaecumque vera Full Member

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    lmao! i guess this is the new "floored" thread. except the village idiot, now brought 17 other idiots who also think floored means stunned.
     
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  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have eyes? Okay that’s the first step, well done. Now go on this thing they have, it’s called YouTube. Just type it in one of those bar things at the top of your computer screen. Got that? Okay, now find another bar, not the one at the very top but one within the YouTube page you should now be on. Cool? Okay, now type in ‘Sugar Ray Robinson’ and a whole list of videos should come up. From this footage you’ll be able to see some archaic and unevolved boxing. Everybody in those videos are slow and unathletic, with poor boxing skills. One guy is less poor, relative to the plumbers and backyard brawlers he is facing. That’s SRR. Boxing is a religion and that’s our Jesus figure, because Ali copied him. Once upon a time a hands down, loose style was a novelty.
     
  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Done that, the post you’re quoting is just me giving a bit of context to the irrationality and emoting coming from everyone else. You’re welcome.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You've done no such thing.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So, no breakdown or anything, just more ignorant waffle?

    Brilliant.

    It's a real pleasure to have you here.
     
  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every aspect of boxing. Whatever you want to talk about. Lomachenko does it all better. So do most boxers post 1990.
    It’s so self evident it’s not worth a break down, you’re not splitting hairs here or having a serious debate. It’s blatantly obvious to anyone who knows the first thing about boxing and isn’t locked into tradition and idolising icons from the past. It’s not a boxing discussion, it’s a ‘do you ignore boxing and look at the boxer and your feelings for them’ discussion. From one side it’s not honest or logical. I get it.
     
  8. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR crushes all your favorite fighters. Period. He destroys Floyd and everyone else.

    You have to realize that all the video you see is him at MW and on the wrong side of 30yo.

    Welterweight SRR was a monster. Physically a beast on the level of RJJ. Dougie, Ring and Breadman have all covered this at length. If you don't believe them just remember there were writers covering RJJ in the 90's who also saw SRR 50yrs earlier in the flesh as young men themselves ringside. Multiple first hand accounts exist comparing his abilities to SRL and RJJ.

    Transcendent boxing ability.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Middleweight was not Ray L`s weight though, Robi was a better middle than Duran or Leonard, SRR knocked out better fighters at middleweight than Leonard or Duran did, SRL never knocked a middleweight out but he knockedd out a light heavy in the form of Donny Lalonde, but KO`ing Fullmer and Graziano Trumps that, would love to have seen Duran v SRR at light middle though, that would have been great. SRR would have done better against Canelo or GGG than Leonard or Duran would have, Duran`s arms were just too short.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    What about the fact that we have never seen Loma hit by a fighter that has knocked out middleweight champs and we have never seen Loma in with a fighter that outreached most middleweights, and we have never seen Loma in the ring with a jab as long as the jab Robi would constantly be pumping at him?
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    I said the same thing myself on another thread but I also pasted a vid showing how skilled McCallum was to balance what I was saying, do you seriously think Loma would have competed with McCallum at 160 the way Robi would have? These are bigger guys by a large margin, Robi had the power to tragde with Fullmer and Graziano, Loma`s tiny in comparison.
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  12. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don’t just lose your skills when you move up. So are you saying the only way to see his ability is to go back in a time machine? Are you saying that he’s so amazing yet you’ve never seen what’s so amazing?
    Transcendent indeed, as I’ve said this is a religious dogma discussion and nothing else. I’ll stick to the reality and what my eyes can see thanks.
     
  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A middleweight then isn’t a middleweight today, weigh ins. There’s no point in discussing SRR as a middleweight because a middleweight today is a light heavy back then.
     
  14. dealt_with

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    Why do you presuppose that SRR could hang with McCallum at 160? There’s nothing to base that on.
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know Graziano is Loma’s height? You know Fullmer is 5’8? Those guys aren’t middleweights today.
     

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