Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Sugar Ray Robinson, who takes it?

this is what i meant on another thread when i said to you, "we can make anything work in a vacuum, getting it to work in the real world" requires someone who knows wtf theyre talkin about.

 

Yes,yes I see your point, boxers today are soooo much better. Why I bet Canelo could whack out a dinosaur like Bob Foster at 175. I mean that's what your asking Loma to do with Robinson. Pardon me I have to load the crack pipe, cough, cough, phew!

 

Counter evidence, where? You’re claiming that something imaginary exists, the onus is on you. I can see what SRR lacks, you’re claiming I’m missing something.

 

I can see Lomachenko's talent. If you can't admire the technique of Sugar Ray Robinson the greatest boxer ever, then you are an idiot.

 

He’s good, against unevolved boxing. There’s nothing amazing about him, he gets hit and his style is common today. He’s not a freak athlete like Roy Jones, he’s not a technician like Lomachenko. I can’t just pretend I’m impressed by him, just like I can’t pretend to be impressed when I see Joe Louis or fighters from the late 19th century. Seeing SRR is like looking at a Charlo brother fight, fine but nothing beyond that.

 

Part of his problem is he's one of those everything gets better with time guys. Probably thinks Shakespeare and Michelangelo sucks too. "I'm a hundred years later than Einstein. I have twitter, therefore I'm smarter than Einstein." One of those morons.

****ed up thing is for all that theory of progress bull**** he spouts he still thinks the most talented boxer of the last 20-30 years "isn't particularly skilled." I don't know how you square "everyone's better now" with "the best of now ain't ****." Clearly, he knows nothing.

 

Loma? Lol... Inoue beats SRR.

 

I had a chuckle a few days ago when I first saw this thread posted and have avoided even looking at it until right about now. It's gotta be one of the most blatant troll threads/topics ive ever seen in the general forum and ive been coming here since 2004.

Without reading through all 12 pages of trash, I'm taking a shot in the dark, how close am I?: @dealt_with and maybe that todd guy under a different nane vs everyone else? Close?

 

Pac isn’t particularly skilled, that’s no secret to anyone who knows boxing. And his skills are better than SRR’ or anyone from that era. That’s how it’s squared up, are you really that dumb that you didn’t even understand that?
In your examples you are talking about art. In the Einstein example then yes of course Stephen Hawking knows more than Einstein along with every other physicist. That is analogous to the boxing example, past efforts are built upon. Your idiotic twitter example is just a reflection of your low iq.

 

The best we’ve ever seen versus a guy from the dark ages.. I thought it was a troll thread at first as well but apparently there are plenty of religious morons around here who still think SRR is the pinnacle of boxing. It’s been a good laugh for me.

 

Come on man, SRR is widely and rightly viewed as the greatest boxer of all time, p4p #1 boxer of all time, and greatest WW and MW of all time. Even if you personally can't see how great he was, there are loads of brilliant minds who are as passionate about boxing as one can get and the large majority of them view SRR as the GOAT. The guy had an unbelievably distinguished career that spanned at least 25 years and faced a murderer's row and who's who for competition. And on top of all that, he was WAY bigger than Loma. He was also a brilliant strategist as a fighter. He would probably just walk Loma down right off the bat and maul the **** out of him. Loma would have nothing for him that I can see. Loma's not even considered a murderous puncher at 126, 130, or 135, so how the **** is he gonna gain SRR's attention if much harder punching guys couldnt?

 

I'll make this easy for u. You just love to disagree...

I never once said SRL would be the best middleweight today (hmm now that I think about it)...

Lightweight - Duran
Welterweight - SRL
Light Middle - Hearns
Middle - Hagler

 

Same day weigh ins. 15 round fights. Poor training methods. Most 135 pound boxers today are going to be the same size or bigger than welterweights of those days, and punch harder.
We don’t even have to talk about Lomachenko, a guy like Shane Mosley would be at least as good as SRR. Anyone who considers SRR the GOAT is an absolute moron and/or completely dishonest. We can talk about reputation, history etc. but the cold hard fact is that we have footage of these guys. I know boxing, I know athletes. I can see how lacking SRR is, and how poor the general quality of boxing is in that era of US-centric boxing. It’s not even world boxing and there were too many rounds, hence why the dominant style was maul and outlast. Aesthetically horrible to watch, angles and footwork were almost completely non-existent.

 

This, but we've seen Loma hit and stunned by a slightly above average power punching LW

 

Well of course you're not impressed with Joe Louis.

You're probably not impressed by Ali either.

You probably think that Arreola would have steamrollered them.

I'll tell you what the most frightening thing is though:

The fact that you've made over 9,000 posts.


I'll still live in hope that we're all being trolled.