Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Sugar Ray Robinson, who takes it?

The problem with your post is he didn't duck Pac. It was Pac who ducked him because of refused to do random blood testing with no cutoffs when will this myth stop? Margo was a nobody and a disgraced cheat, who never had a win of note after being busted for loaded gloves he does nothing for PBF's legacy. PBF fought Chico a devastating KO puncher at 130 he fought everyone at 130 with the exception of guys like Frietas who wanted no parts of him.
Who has Loma seen anything like the best fighter of the era in PBF? He has never seen anyone with his combination of reach speed reflexes defense foot work stamina chin counter punching ring IQ and power at 130. PBF was a complete fighter at 130 and had no real weaknesses. He would be too much for Loma who he would dwarf in the ring. Lastly PBF fought JLC at 135 not 130 and was outweighed by almost 20 pounds on fight night. If you want to play that game Loma went life and death with Salido who's no where as good as JLC and lost.

 

Her fought until He was 45 Years old...His record is incredible the ATG Tag is thrown around a little to much in my Opinion...but Robinson wearing that Tag is well deserved.!!!

 

He fought that long strictly because he was struggling financially. His peak days were far long ago.

 

Hmmm, Corralles R.I.P. was a boxer i always thought was overrated. PBF fought in a weak 130 division. Coralles being the cream of the crop for Void at the time. A poor division. Look, every indication suggest that Lomachenko does pretty well against slick fast twitch boxer. He fought two of them rigo and Russell and looked spectacular.

His struggles with Salido. It's a weird case but i would put it down to fighting a tough Mexican boxer for the first time. Same with Floyd had problems with a tough Mehikano.Castillo wasn't as great as you make him out to be mate. He went life and death with Corralles. A glass jaw boxer. Please forgive me Coralles. Rest is peace.

If you look at the 130 division Void fought a lot of sub par boxers. Hernandez and Chaves. Corralles being the pinnacle or top tier opponent for Void. Imagine Lomachenko fighting thos bums man he would look invincible too.

PBF vs Loma still in my opinion a closer fight than you think. It stylistically favors Void. But Loma has the style that is a not your typical Castillo. He is operating in the matrix realm. A puzzle that not many can crack.

Except maybe PBF or TEO LOL.

 

It was never about testing for Floyd. He waited until Pac got old just like many articles predicted. If it was about PED's, why did Floyd settle the suit and pay off Pac an undicclosed sum of money if he actually believed his own BS? He got scared when his own medical records were going to be under subpoena. He freaked out and settled w/ someone he accused of being on PED's. Yeah...he SURE cared about that....

 

The 130 pound division PBF fought in is much better than the one that Loma fought in no comparison can be made.

The problem is both Russell jr and Rigo are midgets compared to PBF, who's much bigger and longer than them both. Russel Jr is a stationary fighter with Trex arms and **** defense and Rigo was 37 coming up 2 weight classes in a fight that Loma himself didn't even take pride in wining. The fact is Chico would be Loma's best win. He was prime and undefeated top 10 P4P ranked when PBF fought him. I for the life of me can't understand why you can't see that PBF's combination of skills and size wouldn't be problematic for Loma? Loma can't outbox PBF nor can he knock him out how does he win?

Lastly JLC was at one point a top 10 P4P fighter and arguably the best LW of the era, Salido was never seen as the best of anything he was never a top 10 P4P fighter, like JLC was. JLC was light years better than an old Salido who beat Loma. I have no idea what you're talking about here, you couldn't be more wrong.

 

I have so much respect for Loma, but he's not beating with Floyd. You guys are overrating him too much. He's only has 13 professional fights ffs. Gary Russell Jr. doesn't move like Floyd. He struggled pretty bad in his last fight against an unknown. Rigo style isn't even close to Floyd's. Those are bad comparisons. Name an opponent that Loma faced that uses their legs???? Name one. 130 Floyd was like a gotdam cat. All of Loma's pro opponents have been there to be hit.

 

Let me guess you know more than Roach does don't you? 2:30 of this video

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The problem with you PBF haters is you simply can't keep it real. PBF agreed to a 50/50 purse split and only wanted random blood testing with no cutoffs and Pac didn't he stopped talks and went off to fight Clottey those are facts. If it was the other way around and it was PBF who wouldn't agree to testing and ran off to fight Clottey people like you would have killed him but since it was Pac who you like it's okay and he gets a pass. That's bull****. Not only that Pac years later agrees to do this same type of testing against Rios but wouldn't do it against the best in PBF another hoe move. But it was PBF who ducked? Stop!
Lastly why would PBF need for Pac to get old he's older than him and 2 this same Pac in 2009/10 still couldn't beat JMM clearly. What kind of sense does that make? PBF agreed Pac didn't blame Pac. Myth debunked

 

First off...that roach video means nothing. Second.... you don't even consider what I posted. Nothing you wrote discusses Floyd settling the suit.

Why did Floyd settle the lawsuit when it came to his medical records being under subpoena? Can you even give a realistic answer to that? I can. He was afraid to give his medical records.

 

It means plenty Lance don't try and downplay it because you don't like it. Roach was in these discussions don't try and play it off as he was a troll on a message board with an agenda. The facts are they agreed to the purse split, PBF agreed to the over weight limit fine even who would walk in first. Pac didn't agree to random blood testing with no cutoffs PBF did. Pac stopped talks and went off to fight Clottey. Stop spreading myths and lies surround the events of the first PBF-Pac talks.

Medical records are private. PBF has been with alot of women perhaps he has herpes or another STD and didn't want everything disclosed. People find out you have a STD like that and they can sue you. Ask Usher who has had to pay because he had herpes. What you posted is irrelevant what I posted directly shows who ducked who when both were closest to their primes.

 

WHATt??!?!

Floyd settled and paid Pac, who he accused for years of being on PEDS, because he didn't want the idea he might have herpes exposed? WTF?!?!?! That is the DUMBEST theory I have ever heard.

Why do you waste time trying to post your version of the events? Who cares about Clottey or Rios FFS....

Doesn't matter, I got an answer from you. It's an embarrassingly bad answer, but that's yours. Floyd settled w/ Pac over the Clap.... Wow!!!

 

Laugh all you want your deflection won't change the topic at hand. It's right there for the world to see. My version of the events is what happened and Roach agreed with me, they are facts. Your version have nothing to do with the topic at hand and you still have not explained why it was okay for Pac not to agree to testing and run off to fight Clottey, thus ducking PBF back in 2009/10. If you're clean why not test? Either you're dirty or you just don't want the fight because you know you're in over your head and rather take a much easier fight with Clottey instead.

 

Deflection? WTF you talking about deflection? I straight up asked you about one thing, and you ended up bringing all this other stuff up.

Why was it OK for Pac to turn it down? Because IT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT maybe? Whether you like it or not, at that time, very few were doing that level. It's different today obviously.

Why wasn't Floyd on his so-called crusade before Pac? Why wasn't he using these testing methods from the beginning? SO was he possibly juicing too back then? He didn't care at all until he got scared of Pac. That's the truth you won't ever accept.

 

Was Pac's insistence of the over the weight limit $1000000 fine a requirement? No but PBF agreed to it to make the fight. The point is what PBF asked for was to be done to both men and was not bad the problem was with Pac not PBF. Roach even said that he never knew what Ariza was putting in those shakes and they weren't 100% sure that he would pass that's why they did not agree and pulled out to fight Clottey. They ducked PBF didn't.

 

No it wasn't, and Floyd didn't have to accept it. Thing is, Floyd already screwed JMM by missing weight on purpose. THAT is what Pac's weight clause was for. It was based on prior history. Was that supposed to help your point?

But hey, Floyd settled w/ Pac over Floyd having Herpes or chlamydia.... cool story bro.