Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Sugar Ray Robinson, who takes it?

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Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Sugar Ray Robinson, who takes it?

  1. Vasyl Lomachenko Points

    10.6%
  2. Vasyl Lomachenko KO

    13.2%
  3. Draw

    3.3%
  4. Sugar Ray Robinson Points

    9.9%
  5. Sugar Ray Robinson KO

    62.9%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this how hyped Lomachenko was before the Lopez loss in this forum ? The man was outhussled by past it Salido and struggled with Linares. Have people who voted Loma actually seen SRR fight on video ? He was a animal and regardless the size difference is just to big. SRR is NOT Nakatani LMAO he would slaughter Loma on the inside

    The fact that people voted him over SRR is Ludicrous. Lomachenko would be lucky to see the 12 round against prime Oscar De La Hoya, let alone prime SRR. That being said Lomachenko is incredibly skilled and would gave most LWs serious problems.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  3. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think srr is as great as he’s made out to be, but I think he beats Loma
     
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, its real. you can see how me talking reality upsets so many. most dksab, but dont suspect that they dksab. whats there to know?
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. I agree that past boxers are overrated and boxer back then were a bit more rudimentary but hey so gave Marcos Maidana and he gave Floyd hell. Lomachenko looks so spectacular with with footwork, shifting into angles around his opponents, his insane handspeed and his combinations but he's stiff compared to someone like Pernell Whitaker and is less adaptable with his technique. You pressure Loma, smother his work and take risks by exchanging with him and Loma looks a lot less like a demi god and more like an ordinary boxer as Salido, Linares and Lopez showed. Easier said than done but past elite fighters like Duran, Chavez, and Oscar would have been a nightmare for Loma


    The size difference is just laughable and SRR was a monster with his offense.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whats next ?

    Lomachenko beats Sonny Liston ? LOL
     
  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You revive topic from 2019 just to say that ? What a Weirdo.

    And most people voted against Loma, as they should.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Aaaaaand some people on here wonder why this forum is such a special place. If you find yourself agreeing with the majority, you might want to step back and take another look. Rabid Pac fans became Golovkin goons became Lomo lovers. Their claims, analysis, and assertions are wild and unmatched. Historical and contemporary perspectives? Um. They fall short of par. See, they don't actually know what they are seeing so dramatic claims are bound to follow. Everything is so extreme.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Imagine if you went back and told everybody that Teofimo Lopez would beat him clearly soon. Ha! Explains why the fight is so sheltered and the attempts to paint the defeat in a certain light. Lomachenko was their GOAT. Er, still is...!

    People usually are not joking when pointing out the madness the vocal majority of mainstays, comers-and-goers, and alts have pushed over the years. At least some casuals have the shame to disappear, unlike some of you. There is always the bump. So watch what you say!
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Liston's too big for Loma
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So is Sugar Ray Robinson. If Lopez's size and power gave Loma a fight against SRR wouldn't end well
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Loma's speed and angles would give SRR fits. SRR was used to being the faster man his whole career and when you take the speed away from a fighter who isn't used to being beaten to the punch and being made to miss they panic because it's something they've never experienced before.

    It's the same principal as when a savage punching KO artist who has KO'd all their opponents runs across someone who doesn't fall down when they hit them and just walks through their punches with a big grin on their face - panic sets in and it's game over.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL no what would happen is Lomachenko would give him issues with is quick feet and his superior head movement because SRR has never delt with somebody as elusive as Lomachenko, but as soon as he exchanges with SRR like he exchanged with Linares he gets his head taken off. Thats the best case scenario because if this fight goes long Lomachenko will get worn down with body shots and will be beaten to a pulp by the FAR bigger, more powerful man. Size matters.

    Whats next ? Lomachenko beats Sugar Ray Leonard ?
     
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  14. Surrix

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    If you still are talking about greatness Salido does have for fight vs Loma, then this is funny.
    Being contracted to fight at 126 lbs and not making this contracted weight Salido was more than 140 lbs in the ring vs Loma.
    This makes weight difference between division weight for weight ins vs weight in the ring difference more than 14 lbs.
    Still this weight bully was not able even drop Loma for a count.
    So impressive beatup.

    The difference, especially in % of weight between weight ins weight limit and boxers weigh in the ring in lower weight divisions is insane if compare with the same Cruiserweight division per se. With bunches of former CW boxers weight in the ring for HW fights difference vs their CW weight in.
    Salido normally was a weight bully vs Loma, looks that also vs bunches with boxers at 126 lbs he was pretty large bloke in the ring.

    If to compare weight difference in both lbs and % with the same CW/HW version of Huck.
    Huck prime shape version was approx 209 lbs in HW fight vs prime then undefeated in pro boxing Povetkin.
    There even plain difference in lbs between division limit and weigh in the ring does not looks in favour for 126 lbs division boxers.
    God damn.

    Size ofc does matters, you might chek this by installing fore example 40 y.o Duradola vs Canelo in the ring.

    One thing you are wrong is about range/ exchange vs Loma with body blows.
    If the boxer is larger than Loma and with better reach/ S/C level, he looks that should push Loma back and continue to box.
    Only one thing where Loma is enough powerful for 135 lbs division is _____ body punching. Not head punching. Linares already there was real proof.

    Campbell might be undervalued in forums and he is not a finisher per se, still, I think he had KOed Salido if they had fought, Linares, Tank and Garcia too had KOed Salido if they had fought.
    Only 1 stoppage loss Campbell had was cos proper liver punch, like in Linares vs Loma fight.
     
  15. Dodgy Syrup

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    I'm probably one of the least knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to boxing, and even I'm scratching my head at this one.

    My initial response when I saw the title on the front page was "didn't SSR fight at welterweight"?

    He was quite tall and rangey too, at least compared to some of the guys I've seen footage of him against.

    Loma is way too small, surely?

    Aside from the fact he's 4 or 5 inches shorter and has a considerable disadvantage in reach, he's also several divisions/weight classes lighter.

    All of that, plus when you consider SRR was very special, I see no area where Loma has enough, if any, advantages he can use to make it competitive.
     
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