Vazquez / Marquez ... why people are including them in top 10 p4p?

I tend to agree. It's getting near time to remove both of them. It's likely that both will never be the same, and even if by some chance they are, they have been inactive for over a year and Vazquez doesn't appear to have anything on the horizon.

 

They are active. Because they haven't retired.

Marquez is fighting again soon, Vazquez is bound to be in talks.

And they are top 10 P4P because they are 2 quality fighters, if they are still at the level they were before their wars, they beat anybody at 122, and it's a helluva strong division.

Good resumes aswell.

 

It's obvious both aren't average.

But if that's the case, we will see in their upcoming fights. If they look average and lose, then they drop down.

For now, they stay.

Frankly, you are trying to make a ridiculous arguement. It's like saying what if Mayweather comes back, where does he rank P4P given after the whole of 2008 out, he may become an average fighter, when he clearly won't.

 

Mijares went to the top 10 on the basis of dominating guys like Arce, Navarro - top contenders - and then unifying easily against Munoz.

There is nothing wrong with over-rating fighters and then finding out they don't belong and dropping them down. It's far worse to under-rate a fighter and then him have to prove himself all over again to find his way up your list. Guys like Vazquez & Marquez shouldn't and don't have to do that.

 

I have no idea especially Rafa Marquez. The guy has lost two fights in a row and hasn't fought in a year he should be dropped immediately.

 

activity schmactivity

 

Agree with OP. My P4p list is of active fighters. If you say you are retired or you go a calendar year without a fight then you aren't on it.

 

They get an extra allowance for what they did. They can take another year before signing a fight for all I care, they're still both among the top ten best pound-for-pound figthers (in the purest sense of the phrase) until proven otherwise, within reason.

 

That's completely ****ing arbitrary. This is why the idea of everybody and their brother having and comparing worthless lists is stupid.

 

Of course it's completely arbitrary. At some point you have to have an arbitrary line. There's mine.

Why bother to comment on a subject you think is 'stupid' though?