Vergil Ortiz Has A Better Jab, Greater Speed, And Greater Power Than Terence Crawford.

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  1. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See, you don't want to talk about boxing. don't want to argue and answer questions. Immaturity at it's finest.

    When did I do that ? You know boxing, but You are biased and have sensitive side when it comes to certain boxers, which is totally understandable. You just have a hard time admiting your own flaws, maybe that's why you so focussed on others.



    Anyway, just answar the first question, I am a fanboy of who ? Which boxer ? Interesting to know.
     
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  2. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I don't disagree that Ortiz has better speed and power. Both have decent jabs. The difference in footwork is quite remarkable though. Ortiz seems more a plodder. It's a fight I'm ready to see now.
     
  3. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Crawford was getting trouble by a smaller Gambao, all Gambao needed was size and a good chin that's were Ortiz comes in not to mention Crawford will be 34 or 35 by the time they fight, I think Oritz stops him late in a rough tough fight
     
  4. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those connect percentages don't really speak to a fight between Crawford and Ortiz. Nether does that Crawford has reached his peak and Ortiz is still learning. The fact is that fighters are improving and adjusting their entire careers. Crawford is not a beat up fighter and is no where near a down hill slide. You didn't mention that Kav got up three or four times against Ortiz but only twice against Crawford, nor did you mention that Kav had a real shot at stopping Ortiz. If that were Crawford, Ortiz would have been done for. Plus it was the uppercut that started the whole thing and everybody knows that Crawford is the uppercut master with power in either hand. Now it will be an interesting fight but I wouldn't be writing Crawford's eulogy but rather the continued education of Ortiz.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ortiz is good enough to beat him right now, and he will get better, and crawford will not get any better. i repeat, bud will not get any better. punch stats tell the story of offense and defense, the story is. against the same guy, ortiz has better offense and defense. thats just the bottom line. you can debate why the numbers are what they are, but i dont see what it will change regarding what i just wrote.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i wrote this in the rd by rd thread.
    checking punch statistics, it appears that i was correct in what my eyes told me. which puzzles me. because i keep reading post after post about how crawford has much better defense than vergil. so either me and punch stats are wrong, or lots of people have no idea what theyre seeing, or see only what they want to see.
    another thing that puzzles me, is the amount of people who say, and repeat, that he is too stationary, that he doesnt use his legs or move his head...and im thinking, wtf are these people watching?
    im not saying you do all this, i know you aint no casual, im just giving my perspective on everything im reading.
     
  7. Serge

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