***Vergil Ortiz leaves Robert Garcia for Eddy Reynoso? ***

I know that reinoso is now "the popular guy" of the sport. But I personaly like more roberto garcía.

They say "with good guns everybody can shoot". What's hard is to take clueless ****ing useless maidana (the maidana who roberto took after khan) and to build a killing machine out of it, as he did.

Ofc, I'm biased, I'm a big roberto garcía fan.

 

Well is Garcia still that good of a trainer? Ever since he left to Riverside, what became of his staple of fighters at the boxing academy? And is his son really gonna take over him? I stopped following the Garcia's long ago, so haven't kept up. Feels like his quality of fighters and training have gone down as of late.

Ortiz may just be jumping on the bandwagon now, everyone wants Reynoso. But hey at least it does appear to be an active gym with constant training and quality fighters to spar with.

 

I really don't like this move. One, the optics: Reynoso's Camp, fair or not, has the spectre of PEDs; it has for years, and recent events brought it to the forefront again. Now, even though Ortiz has been performing amazingly at the gym of as honest a broker as exists in this sometimes circus of a sport with Garcia, he's going to get painted with that same suspicious brush too, especially if he keeps knocking people out in brutal fashion.

Then you have to factor Ortiz being upset at not being Garcia's priority on the night of Ortiz' biggest fight to date. That is a perfectly understandable situation from everyone's perspective and is just one of those unfortunate things where the stars lined up against everyone. Ortiz wants a coach that will give him, someone everyone thinks is, along with Ennis Boots, is the future of 147 and possibly beyond, preferential treatment.

Reynoso coaches Canelo Alvarez (the biggest star in boxing), Ryan Garcia (huge following that actually buys his shows and attends his fights, massive upside), Andy Ruiz Jr (first Hispanic Heavyweight Champion, gets the heavyweight priority), and Oscar Valdez (big potential fights, controversy creates cash). He'll be lucky to be the third-highest priority in that setting.

 

Exactly. If he thinks RGB is not giving him enough attention, how does he think he's gonna get attention with Canelo, Andy and Ryan in the stable?

 

It's just odd to make this move and cite that reason. My only conclusion is that Ortiz thinks he has even BIGGER star potential than we've seen thus far and is taking a massive gamble on himself, or there are other personal reasons neither side is getting into because they're adults and they don't go around getting sassy with each other on Twitter-dot-com.

 

I was going to make the same points, but you beat me to it.

The Reynosos, like Virgil Hunter before them, are enjoying the pull of having a P4P fighter spotlighting their stable. I'm not saying Reynoso is no good, just that his quality is a little overestimated right now on account of having happened across an exceptional young talent who has ended up teaching them about as much as (if not more than) they taught him. They got there together, but Canelo is now the boxing brain in that relationship, depending on Eddy more for timely nudges, moral support, familiarity/loyalty.

Garcia did top-notch work polishing up an agricultural fighter in Maidana, adding method and nous to his raw power. Amir Khan wouldn't have made it into the late rounds with the Garcia version of Chino in my opinion, and that's the kind of difference Robert brought to the table.

 

Ortiz will succeed either way imo. Hard work pays off.

 

Lol

 

We’re about to see Vergil get his “man strength”

 

reynoso is a better trainer than robert. as a person, i like robert much more, hes an excellent trainer, but hes a stand up guy on top of that. good people. reynoso is just a better strategist and student of the art of fighter preparation.
i didnt always feel that way. 3 or 4 years ago i felt canelo would be better served switching to another trainer that could teach him the finer points of boxing, the post grad stuff. but ive watched him fix and improve fighters in ways i had previously said they needed fixing. he sees things other trainers dont see, or dont take the time to address.

 

He wants some Reynoso beef lol

 

This, Ortiz just became the next big thing in boxing, no pun intended!

 

Good for him. Sticking with Robert Garcia would have made him a basic fighter who can't deal with adversity. Now he might even have a chance against Ennis.

 

And his "man acne" as well. We all get acne in our late 20's and early 30's, don't we?