VERY concerned that Antonio cheated Cotto.

Well, almost everyone stole something in their lifetime. A pen, coin, paper... by your reasoning, makes enough evidence to assume and make a case that we do it all the time. "Mosely maybe on roids that night" is also valid to assume am i right?

 

Umm...yeah...we all know Cotto lost. We saw the fight too. No excuses here. :roll: HOWEVER, Margarita's character is now compromised due to the interesting developments from last night. Margarita being busted for attempting to use a foreign substance in his gloves warrants an investigation of whether he ever used illegal hand wraps prior to the Mosley fight. The Cotto fight would be most questionable because even impartial witnesses such as Jim lampley have stated, and I'm paraphrasing, he heard audible "thudding blows" from Margarita during his fight with Cotto but didn't hear a duplication of thudding blows against Mosley. Interesting don't you think?

 

The BIG difference between the Mosley fight and the Cotto fight is that cilnching is nowhere in Cotto's vocabulary whereas Mosley knows how to tie up Margo when necessary.

 

That's the best argument refuting the possibility of shady practices in the Cotto/Marg fight that I've yet heard.

I think it's a legit question but this is a good argument.

 

There was an issue that MAB tried to do it against Pac in the rematch, thats the fuzz why Roach now checks hand wrapping of an opponent. It didnt become an issue and they let it go since, it was corrected just like what happened to Margo. By your analysis, it suggests that MAB's win against Morales was "questionable" since he is pretty much capable of doing such a thing. Pac even said that MAB punched the hardest among all the opponents he's ever fought. Could it be that Mab didnt get caught the first time? Maybe, maybe not. but we can only count in proven facts, and not assumptions like some suggests.

 

comparing something as common to kids shoplifting is much different then a fighting hiding something under there wraps to make there punches much harder, so thats a ridiculous comparison first off

shoplifting would be better compared to low blowing while the ref aint looking, or the occasional intentional headbutt, but this, this is something completely different, this can change the caliber of a fighter, this can make people believe that the fighter has KO power when he doesn't, and this also fits perfect with his style

normally a fighter who throws as many punches as Margarito wouldn't have enough power to seriously damage someone, as you've seen with fighters like Diaz, Johnson, Calzaghe, etc. etc., because you have to sacrifice power for workrate, but if he has the illegal hardening substance in his gloves even he sacrifices his power for workrate, his opponent will still feel the punches alot more then normal, which will give the illusion that he's heavy handed, because it would basically feel like you're getting hit with a damn wall over and over

and yeah, you're right that is a valid assumption, maybe Mosley was on roids again, but the difference is, Mosleys not the one under trial right now, he's paid his dues, and he's been under the interrogation lights, and he's had his whole career put in question, what you're doing is childish, trying to bring someone else down and not putting the blame where it needs to be, which is on Margarito

to you this may be a small issue, but thats because you're not looking at the right way, ok lets say that this was in fact the 1st time Margarito tryed that, alright? (though any logical person knows it wasn't)

you saw what he did to Cotto, and various other fighters, if he had enough power to do that to those fighters without the plaster, just imagine what he could to a man with the plaster...scary thought right? he could of killed him, i'm talking murder here, and though thats not uncommon in our sport and not really that huge of an issue, it is when you do it by the means of an illegal substance hidden in your gloves

now imagine if you were Cotto or Mosley, or hell, imagine if they were one of your close family members, had he of successfully gotten away with it this time and severly injured Mosley, what makes you think he wouldn't of used it again in a Cotto rematch? or maybe a Williams or Santos rematch?, that shits not boxing, that shits a street fight, and we dont pay good money to watch street fights, we pay to see a sport, i doubt even MMA fans would appreciate that kind of brutality

 

Truth lol

 

I don't like to assume things... but in this case.... I would put my money on Margo cheating for many fights in the past. We all saw how Margo's punches were effecting cotto... and we also all know that was Margarito's biggest fight and he most likely would have done anything to win.

I mean, if he tried to do it for the Mosley fight, why would we think that this was his first time ever doing it?

 

You've used a wrong analogy. THIS is the correct analogy:

You are at a friends house and his £50 goes that he had on the table goes missing. He doesnt accuse u because u are his friend. However he later finds out that you stole £50 from another friend. Is he still gonna give you the benefit of the doubt about his money?? Theoretically the money could have blown under a cupboard or something..but as soon as he found out u stole money from another friend, he will suspect that u stole HIS money.

Im not gonna come on the INTERNET and start raving about how margarito cheated against SMM and how he is a disgrace and also cheated against cotto etc. Ive watched enough sports to realise not to blow things out of proportion until all the facts have come to light. But u cant ignore what we currently have:

-it is claimed by the mosley team doctor that flakes of what appeared to be plaster of paris fell from margarito's handwraps. If this is true it is undeniable he would have tried to fight with them. He was hardly putting them on as a pre-fight ritual only to replace them for the fight.

-margarito's handwrap for the actual fight was legit.

-margarito (in the fight we KNOW he did not cheat) did not cut up mosley whatsoever.

-margarito (in the fight we cannot say whether he cheated) cut up cotto worse than ive ever seen him cut up.


Im not accusing margo. He deserves better than for some internet people to accuse him of practically being the cause of original sin. But the whole thing is definitely suspicious to me..

 

Umm...

The image of that makes me feel sick :scaredas:

 

i get what you mean, didnt have to be that long to explain it again. Bottom line is, It didn't happen, and all these assumption would be futile because we dont have evidence. A lot of possible scenarios are available for us. For all we know, its probably the first time this thing happened to Margo. That's the reason why you need to present facts and hard evidence to support your claim or it'll all be hearsay and make believe. Thats too much assumption imo.

 

Ok that may be clearer. We experience situations where in we lose trust on a certain person based on what happened recently. Some may be generous in giving the benefit of the doubt, it really depends.

 

LOL. :rofl

 

Right, the trunks were still on as well. lmao