Very good or great? Volume 10: Jersey Joe Walcott

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  1. Boxed Ears

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    *Jersey* Joe Walcott, mind. Now, here's a guy that is A. typically recognised as one of the top-tier technicians in the HW champ history books, with some great names on his official win list. He's also been looked at as one of the most impressive challenging forces of Joe Louis' reign, a general consensus top 2 heavyweight. But, he never did have an on-paper wow factor that some significantly lesser proven fighters have managed with great accolades accompanying them.

    He didn't get to be a dominant force as the top man at any time or place but I feel like he makes the cut on ability and best displays of it. Not to mention, sometimes he just looks so cool he should be standing next to Richard Roundtree in an arctic spacesuit. What does that mean? I'm not sure. I'm half in the bag right now. You have no idea how many spell-checker corrections have taken place while trying to post this. I gave up on a word twice because spell-checker didn't know what the flip I was trying to say either. What say you on this HOF fighting man? Did he earn pugilistic greatness or was he respectably just very good?

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    Volumes 1-8:

    Very good or great? Volume 1: Ken Norton

    Very good or great? Volume 2: Ernesto Marcel

    Very good or great? Volume 3: Genaro Hernandez

    Very good or great? Volume 4: Chris Eubank

    Very good or great? Volume 5: Diego Corrales

    Very good or great? Volume 6: Terry Norris

    Very good or great? Volume 7: Riddick Bowe

    Very good or great? Volume 8: Floyd Patterson

    Very good or great? Volume 9: Antonio Tarver (Yes, Antonio Tarver, who got 4 votes, 4 votes, Antonio Tarver, 4 votes)
     
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  2. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Walcott would seem to be the poster-boy of very good but not great, no?
     
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  3. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was more so asking. With my limited knowledge of him he just SEEMED like that way to me. I'm no expert in anything let alone heavyweights so I shouldn't even be posting. :lol:
     
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  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    This is a good one.... The Charles wins and the close one (loss) with Louis....got sparked twice by Rock....beat up Johnson. :think
     
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Sorry Double J, I'm rolling with very good.
     
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  6. TheHammerof63

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    Gr8 thread man., If u ask me JoE walcot is clearly an all time great as far as his boxing goes. realy tricky fighter. ppl praise jimmy young all thi time but if yuo ask me walcott would have knocked young out eforttlesely.
     
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  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    It's tough, but I'm going very good. But there's a case for great. The Charles fight, the Marciano fight, the Louis controversial fight, then there's Maxim, Elmer Ray, Harold Johnson, and Jimmy Bivins. Probably not consistent enough to be great, but circumstances and the times made it harder to achieve that.
     
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  8. Theron

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    Great :D
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    Arguably great, yes. A top 101+ type of fighter, I wouldn't say he was greater than Marcel mind you.
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    Terry Norris :rofl
     
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  11. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and then theres Abe Simon.


    How, in the name of holy sweet jesus, did he beat jersey joe?????????
     
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  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Think Joe was still hungry and not properly backed at this point. That sort of thing can make a world a difference.
     
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  13. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    The KO over Charles was cool.

    Would love to get hit by that
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'd say great.

    His consistency was not great and he didn't really achieve that much in comparison to those generally recognised as great.

    However when he put it together he could fight great. He came up short against Louis but then again who wouldn't? He beat enough great fighters that we are allowed to call him a great fighter also.
     
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  15. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just like watching him fight. Mix of brutality and slick skill. Tough truly mad fighter when steamed up. Which made up for the inability to control the fight at times.

    I vote very good but he is one of the best example of your series. In classic boxing banter His name obviously associated with true boxing greats so it helps his case more than legitimate achievements and domination
     
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