Very good or great? Volume 3: Genaro Hernandez

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  1. Boxed Ears

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    Genaro Hernandez

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    Record:     38 victories, 2 losses, 1 draw
    World Title Fight Record: 12-2-1

    WBA Super Featherweight Champion
    1991 Nov 22 – 1995
    Vacated
    8 Defenses

    WBC Super Featherweight Champion
    1997 Mar 22 – 1998 Oct 3
    3 Defenses

    Victories over Champions:

    1. Daniel Londas (Then Future WBO Super Featherweight Champion)
    2. Raul Perez (Then former WBC Bantamweight Champion and former WBA Super Bantamweight Champion)
    3. Jorge Paez (Then former IBF and WBO Featherweight Champion)
    4. Azumah Nelson (Then former WBC Featherweight Champion, both former and then-current WBC Super Featherweight Champion)
    5. Anatoly Alexandrov (Future WBO Super Featherweight Champion)
    6. Carlos Hernandez (Future IBF Super Featherweight Champion)

    Championship Years: 1991-1998 (1991-1995, 1997-1998)

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    Of his only two losses, Hernandez takes one in an attempt to step up in weight and earn a lightweight title against lightweight powerhouse Oscar De La Hoya and the other in what turned out to be his last fight against future superstar Floyd Mayweather, Junior.

    Classic, what's the verdict...Very good or great? Do you feel strongly about your pick or consider him a "borderline" case?

    To see the first two "Very good or great" threads:

    Very good or great? Volume 2: Ernesto Marcel


    Very good or great? Volume 1: Ken Norton

    Hold on for the poll.
     
    Boxed Ears, Sep 23, 2010
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  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Genaro was a very good fighter and a great person one of the nicest guys in boxing,hope he continues to do well after surviving a cancer scare. He had great boxing skills (see Nelson,Famoso,pre title fights,early rounds vs ODLH)but sometimes made fights harder than they should when he wanted to rumble(See Paez,Waren)even though he was an excellent in fighter for being so tall. When boxing he was sooooo hard to beat and had great ability. That being said i believe he should be in the IBHOF. Although sorry to say even though one of my all time favorites i would not label him as a "Great Fighter".
     
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  3. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that Genaro was a very good technical fighter with some pop when his hand was good.

    Anarci, I remember our old friend Johnny thought so much of him he thought he could give Oscar issues.
     
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  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good fighter, but short of greatness. He lost to the best he faced, aside from an ancient Azumah Nelson.
     
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  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    just Very good, good boxing skills
     
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Sep 24, 2010
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  6. horst

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    Neither IMO.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    How do you substantiate that?
     
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  8. horst

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    I don't think he was great or very good. I think he was a good fighter. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  9. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very good fighter, but an ATG as far as one of the classiest Champions ever. A true credit to the sport.
     
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  10. Drew101

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    You could make a case for him being in the lower reaches of the top 10 at 130lbs (the Oscar fight doesn't count in that regard, since it was at 135 and Mayweather even at that point was pretty great), but on the whole, I'd lean more toward very good than truly great. Still a hell of a fighter when he was at his best.
     
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  11. The Funny Man 7

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    Incredibly nice guy and a really solid fighter for a moderate period of time, but the way he lost so one-sidedly to a very very green fighter, even one as good as Mayweather, really limits his historical standing.
     
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  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    To be fair, i thought he was well on the way down by that time.

    I agree with Popkins to an extent.imo he was one of those fighters who were a bit better than just solid but not quite genuinely very good either; he's not one of my favourite standup technicians.he definitely benefited from the multiple belt junior weightclass era, though he certainly isn't the worst fighter to have done so.
     
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  13. teeto

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    Very good for me, i don't see any other conclusion at all really.
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

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    I'm a bit surprised by this, gents, but though I don't agree, I don't think it's a particularly unfair conclusion.
     
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  15. Boxed Ears

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    And even though I'm on the side of just very good, I'm feeling bad for Chicanito here. 100% coming down on the "very good" side in the votes so far and two that don't even think he qualifies as that. Yikes.
     
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