Vhb Middleweight Rankings, December 2008

Pavlik is the champ regardless if you consider Abraham better or not(I personnally do too) and Marquez has retired

 

Asikainen is to high!

 

I quite agree with you. The Finnish fighter should not be ranked among the top 6-7 at middle weight at present.He was knocked out by both Sylvester and Gevor.
As you know bothe the Armenian and the German are not exactly known for their great firepower.

I for my part would always beat my money on someone like Carrera in a fight against Asikainen.

 

Here are the correct rankings:

Champ: Kelly Pavlik

1. Arthur Abraham

2. Felix Sturm

And then everyone else.

 

Champ: Kelly Pavlik

#1, Winky Wright

#2, Arthur Abraham

#3, felix Sturm

and then everyone else.

I'm assuming that Winky is serious about his comeback, and that he can return to the level he was at in the Taylor fight. Yes, it's an assumption, but I think it is a safe one.

 

Winky is done, no fight for years.....

Asikainen should be under Sylvester, no need for him to be so high, but I agree on Abraham above Pavlik.

 

pavlik lost at a higher weight so it should affect his p4p rankings but it should not have affected his mw status.
if he lost to a mw then fair enough.
so i think it should be pavlik then abraham then strum until these guys actually fight one another.
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I've been out of town with not much access to news or the internet. I just now found out that Winky pulled out of his comeback fight. That does leave him out of the picture, that's for sure.

Pavlik KO8 Abraham: Arthur is a warrior, but he'd have a puncher's chance at best against Pavlik.

 

Pavlik is THE middleweight champion until someone at 160 proves otherwise. Pavlik beat Taylor who beat Hopkins, and BHop was undisputed at the time.

Arthur won a title Taylor vacated in a contest with a guy who never did anything substantial before or after their fight. I have massive respect for AA, but based on resume' and the credibility of their title wins, Pavlik is THE MAN at 160 until someone proves otherwise.

Also, you have Marquez at #11. Bronco McKart's last fight was a draw with Raul. If Marquez is #11, Bronco should be right around there somewhere. Considering that Marquez says he's retiring, and McKart is fighting a solid opponent on the 20th of this month, McKart should probably go above Marquez.

 

So VHB likes to post his rankings then bail out? Man up VHB, and defend how in the world you could place AA above champ Kelly Pavlik

 

And how the hell does he put Marquez at #11, and not have McKart in the top 20:think

Answers man -- we need answers!

 

I don't think we are gonna get them, and even if we do get them... they won't make any sense :bananamaniac