VHB Middleweight rankings, February 2009

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  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Of course it is Pavlik. He beat Jermain Taylor who was undisupted champion coming off his 2 wins over Hopkins. I wanna know how in the hell you can put Abraham ahead of Pavlik? No, being European does not count.
     
    Fedor Em, Feb 26, 2009
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  2. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AA almost decapitated Gevor who is better than any fighter -except for Taylor- Pavlik has ever fought at middle weight.
    Pavlik has the best scalp in his collection(Taylor),but AA has fought far better competition all in all.
     
    Odo, Feb 26, 2009
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  3. VHB

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    That´s exaggeration - Pavlik has fought Taylor x 2, Miranda, Rubio, Zertuche, McKart, Zuniga, Lockett.

    IMO those scalps are pretty comparable to Abraham´s top opposition, EXCEPT for Taylor, who is the greatest name clearly on either´s list.

    But I just feel Abraham would still crush Pavlik.
     
    VHB, Mar 2, 2009
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  4. dominator

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    Abraham v Pavlik is the biggest fight at middleweight.

    Sturm v Mundine would also be a good fight.

    These are the top 4 fighters at middleweight.
     
    dominator, Mar 2, 2009
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  5. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Any list without Pavlik as #1 fails.Was this thread originated in Berlin?
     
    fatcity, Mar 2, 2009
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  6. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree with you,vhb!

    Gevor is better than Zertuche,Zuniga,Rubio,or McKart.
    AA also beat Kofi Jantuah who gave Rubio short shrift.
    Zuniga is overrated here on esb.He was beaten by Inkin a few months ago,and as we all know Inkin was dethroned in the following fight by an unknown Hungarian talent.
    McKart? Even Karmazin who fights above his weight and seems to be over the hill outpointed him.
    Zertuche? A good journeyman,nothing more.
    Lockett?? :D He probably plays in Wayne Elcott's league.
    No, all in all AA has fought much better opposition than Pavlik at middle weight.
    On the other hand Pavlik twice beat Taylor who is better than any scalp in AA 's fight record.
     
    Odo, Mar 2, 2009
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  7. VHB

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    Not true. The difference is microscopic, except for Taylor, whom Pavlik beat twice.

    Abraham has maybe faced more world top 20 guys, but nobody from Taylor´s league.
     
    VHB, Mar 2, 2009
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