How do the now two top guys in the divison match up against each other. A very interesting match up, and a great clash of styles. I've put up a clip of a dominant performance against a top level opponent for both of them. Martin Castillo for Montiel and Mijares for Vic. Then i have put up a clip of each of them fighting a very tough and under rated pinoy in Z Gorres. Have a look at the clips then put your thoughts down. :good Montiel vs Castillo Clip 1 [yt]Lx_VtzS0cA4&feature=related[/yt] Montiel vs Z Gorres [yt]9L8hDUAxSIk&feature=related[/yt] Vic v Mijares [yt]MG5mffuDAm8[/yt] [yt]zfDD9LqKZrU&feature=related[/yt] Vic v Z Gorres [yt]EOPLLP19scU[/yt] Couple things to point out. Montiel is very upright, and seemingly there to be hit. Montiel is also very explosive as a puncher, something that gave Vic a lot of trouble against Donaire. Montiel has a great left hook and right hand, both excellent weapons against a southpaw. Vic is excellent at feinting, and theoretically should be able to draw Montiel into throwing power punches. After Montiel throws he leaves himself wide open for big power shots and is often times off balance. Montiel defensively likes to pick shots off with his gloves, which is very hard to do when your opponent is throwing from angles like Vic does. Trying to be as objective as possible, i would have Vic as a favourite in this fight, provided he carries his effective combination punching across from the Mijares fights, and doesn't go crazy looking for one punch. I think he is a much trickier boxer than Montiel, and can use his feints and his angles to both confuse and limit the offense of MOntiel, as well as create openings for his own punches. The biggest test here for Vic will be his chin. It is definitely shakey, and he is going in against a genuine puncher, and a guy who is very explosive. If he isn't careful when loading up his own power punches, he definitely stands a good chance of being knocked out. Very interesting match up. What are your thoughts??
Well its far & away the best fight in the division. Im not going against Vic in this 1...i think a KO will happen with Vic getting it after 8 odd rounds...but he has to remain patient as if he lunges in he will be open to huge counters. Montiel does have obviously way bigger power than Mijares & it must be respected to an extent, especially early on.
Would love to see this fight happen. I think Vic has improved after his loss to Donaire, he is more patient and didnt look to end the fight against Mijares with just one punch. Its definitely a hard fight to pick but I think Vic has a good chance of landing that straight left against Montiel. As you say though the big question is can Vic handle the power of Montiel. I wouldnt be too confident in picking a winner but Darchinyan definitely has a good chance it all depends on his chin and his abilty to land his left imo.
I have long been a fan of Montiel..He looked **** in his last fight but it was at bantemweight against a guy with an iron chin..not sure he took that fight seriously enough. Im not sure how he is going to handle Vic..he may box him but I think he will struggle because he isnt as good a technician as Mijares and we saw what happened there. He may brawl with him...bad idea. Montiel is boxer-puncher in my book..a decent boxer, a very decent puncher but not a specialist at both. He is a stand up boxer and fairly conventional in his approach, whereas Vic is almost the opposite. I think he showed against Gorres and TooSharp he was a bit confused on how to tackle them and their style but eventually figured out both...Against toosharp he was to little to late and Gorres gave him hell, there is no doubting that but Fernando's hard clean punches were worth twice as much as Gorres pitter patter..Thats why I dont think that fight was all that controversial. I mean it was in the Phillipines. They were both slicksters, with a defensive mindset (for the most part)..Vic is not that BUT he also isnt to average mexican slugger that Montiel can usually handle with ease..he is obviously very unique and awkward. Vic will be favourite. I hate to see a loser, I want to see Vic get up but I will reluctantly side with Montiel here. Jambo...Are you MSTR?
Ah good good..welcome back...Just MSTR used make these kinds of threads and I noticed a thread that saying Jambo was someone from back in the day coming back but didnt think to have a close look at the time.
Yep. My 'Bring back Eels Rule Express' finally worked. It only took him a year too. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32534 For all those that voted against his return, you can send your apologies here. Unfortunately due to back door ESB shannanigans he was unable to return under his old username, but I'm sure we'll all get used to Jambo.
i pick vic to win, his chin is solid, the punch from donaire would have knocked out anyone, vic is too strong & the better technitian in this one. would love to see this fight.
:rofl:rofl:rofl As if it is EelsRule... They got you hook, line and sinker on that one. MSTR in the flesh baby
vic by ko, in a very entertaining scrap while it lasts, but having your chin in the air with not much head movement is very dangerous against darchinyan, especially with the angles and power he comes at people with...
im confused is it eels rule or is it mstr !!! lol if it was mstr he use to talk about his little adventures on his weekends abit more they were good value...
I cant' believe you silly kunts can't tell that its me. Eels Rule is a fuking ******, i'm actually offended
I'll take Vic. Montiel is a decent puncher and slippery but not as slick as a Donaire or even Gorres and I wonder if he can find the target with a big shot which is his only real chance imo. Vic has shown great movement and patience lately and if he can find the target against the quality of Mijares (even though I thought Mijares own bravado worked against him) I say Montiel's in trouble.