Vicente Saldivar, Ruben Olivares, Miguel Canto...How would you rank them?

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  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    In what order would you rank these 3 mexican ATG's by the following:

    Ability
    Resume
    H2H
    Overall greatness

    ???
     
    Zopilote, Apr 27, 2011
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  2. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Olivares
    Saldivar
    Canto
     
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  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Saldivar
    Olivares
    Canto
     
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  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Olivares (top 40)

    Saldivar (top 50)

    Canto (top 70)
     
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  5. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Olivares top 35, Sadivare top 50, Canto top 60.
     
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  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    X's 2
     
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  7. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Canto is underrated...:-(
     
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  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ability: 1. Olivares 2. Saldivar & Canto (even)
    Resume: 1. Olivares & Saldivar (even) 2. Canto
    H2H: 1. Saldivar 2. Canto & Olivares (even)
    Overall greatness: 1. Saldivar 2. Canto 3. Olivares
     
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  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I don't think Olivares' resume is that good, he was too inconsistent for my liking.
     
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  10. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I dunno about the record not being that good...i think it's strong, but he maybe gets a bit of a pass at times for declining so quickly after winning the title.

    A bit of a mexican Don Curry in some ways, though his ability to still be a good world class fighter after repeated losses and at a higher weight was impressive.Pointing strongly to the fact he was fairly tough mentally and would certainly have done more if not for his partying habits.
     
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  11. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Olivares
    saldivar
    Canto a close 3rd
     
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  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They are separate points though aren't they?

    I agree that he was too inconsistent, hence I think the other two more consistent men were better.

    But his resume (wins resume, as I understand it) is pretty strong imo:

    Rose, Castillo, Chacon, Ramirez, Rudkin, Gomez, Hafey together with a good slew of oldies like Medel, Burruni, Torres, Stevens and Pimentel. Arguably not as good as Saldivar's but it's up there..
     
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