victor conte and memo

You didn't ask any question, you're equating them both the same. Not sure how many times I have to say they are not the same imo. Heredia is still a doping chemist. Conte is not as far as anyone knows. Do I find Conte suspicious? Not really until he does something suspicious again.

Do you get that now?

 

I agree with you. Just because one man did time and the other didn't, doesn't mean one is clean and the other is not. There's no telling whether one is clean or not, truthfully. And any claim that Conte is clean and Heredia is not is pure speculation.

 

It is an established principle in cycling that you only work with a doping doctor if you are doping. You simply wouldn't risk the negative publicity unless you had a lot to gain and couldn't get the legit services that individual provides from another, untainted individual. The same principle surely holds true with Heredia. WHY would anybody hire him for any other reason? What possible benefit can there be in hiring a notorious drug provider unless you are getting drugs from him? There are other S&C coaches out there who won't bring bad publicity.

 

As for Conte, the father of modern doping, Francesco Conconi, worked for IOC to come up with tests to combat the doping practices HE was spreading. Best possible way to keep ahead of the game. I'm not saying Conte isn't reformed, I'm just saying there's precedents for people in "anti-doping" not exactly being whiter than white.

 

This is somewhat similar to White Hat Hacking or hiring a convicted burglar for security. Do you do it because you want to do what they do or because they know their stuff?

 

I find it funny that floyd has not been tested yet.................

i heard the reason he delayed signing was so he could taper of ......................................................... now he has memo to supply him undetectable

 

yeah, usada and tmt know's that testing and retesting and excusing positive a-sample because of inadvertent use ain't going to work this time.

 

Berto had already left Conte when he decided to roid up. Do you often make these claims without the facts?

 

Except Conte isn't a doctor or chemist. He is a logistics guy. He understands how the doing works since he was the one that facilitated the apparatus behind BALCO. But as a chemical mastermind he is not. Obviously he could be evil underneath, but who knows. It's impossible to prove a negative you know.

 

Amazing aint it

 

Conte is almost certainly clean since he gives nice interviews to Gabe Montoya. No need to worry about the gigantic conflict of interest of continuing to actively advise fighters while also founding, advising, and paying for a testing agency meant to prove the cleanliness of said fighters.

 

Actually the initial Twitter spin from Conte was that Berto had merely taken an impure supplement not from him. Only subsequently did it turn out he conveniently had "nothing" to do with that camp. Of course I have little doubt Valiant Victor has access to more covert drugs than nandrolone and could beat a VADA test in his sleep.