Victor Conte and PEDs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rojo, Nov 29, 2013.


  1. Rojo

    Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Below is a link where Victor Conte talks to Joe Rogan about PEDs for about 3 hours. During the discussion, Victor describes how damned easy Boxers and other athletes can beat steroid testing - and it is especially easy for boxers since they aren't tested all year long.


    After listening to Victor Conte, I think Floyd Mayweather has the right idea by insisting on tests, but the way he goes about it is totally wrong and would not catch anyone whose physical trainer had half a clue. Also, no fighter wants to show up for a fight with steroids in their system - even if it were legal. Steroids make the muscles retain water and this slows the muscles, thus decreasing power. Thus, the steroid tests given just before and after a fight are deemed by Victor to be "IQ" tests and not really steroid tests.

    Happy listening.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0
     
  2. brendo

    brendo Member Full Member

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    that's fascinating mate, cheers! Only 40 mins in but already learnt loads!
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As soon as he left Phonaire, Phonaire has looked like a bum. hmmmm ...
     
  4. Rojo

    Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Please enlighten me. Exactly what did you mean by this statement?
     
  5. 1_man_army

    1_man_army The Knockout King Full Member

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    If Conte was juicing up his fighters then why would he be so open about how easy it was? Surely it would be better to shut your mouth and juice away in the background with everyone being oblivious to it, no?

    With Conte's past it makes no sense for Conte to go back into the PED business, he knows he has a target on his back and everyone will already suspect him.

    If you plan to juice then you should be looking for LESS attention on who is in your camp and your training methods, not more.
     
  6. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well obviously Marquez was roiding why associate with Heredia.

    VADA is the only testing group I trust.

    coverups at the highest levels, I now believe Mayweather regardless of what he says has juiced and so has Pac

    Usain Bolt and the whole Jamaican running team are Jiucers.

    Sports is full of PEDS and no one gives a ****.
     
  7. TheCrazyCal

    TheCrazyCal Baby Faced Hassassin Full Member

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    Conte`s out of the game now, he`s like the masked magician who shows how to do the old tricks..
     
  8. ElJaguar

    ElJaguar Member Full Member

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    Conte is obviously knowledgeable about PEDS, but he's not at all neutral. The guy has serious personal beef with Conte and Ariza, to the extent that he's practically obsessed with them. He's also quick to point the finger at other fighters and trainers, even though he's the one who's had athletes associated with him test positive over the past couple of years. His close association with VADA is also a bit dodgy.
     
  9. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure hope you've never criticized Heredia then as the same line of logic would absolve him as well.