Victor Conte - Marvel all you want, JMM is doping.

Not sure if you are trolling. But you are saying that maybe "you" should give Memo the benefit of the doubt. That's great for you. Conte has gone 180 from Balco. His client Donaire has submitted to year round testing to prove he's clean.

What have Memo and JMM done? Why's there massive acne and HGH gut on JMM now? Why don't they voluntarily commit to VADA year round testing? Logic would dictate that anyone associated with Memo is suspect. And there is a reason why no reputable sport would allow Memo to be a part of it.

Boxing is the last sport out there. Without a single sanctioning/governing body, a dope master like Memo is free to reign. He can basically dope his clients free from the FEDs touching him from the safety of Mexico.


**You know what irks me? The fact that the FEDs turned Memo into a witness while everyone else who was a higher profile went down thru prosecution, sport bans, gold medals and records stripped. But Memo is free to do his thing from Mexico.

 

Chances are already 100% you're a ******* with that logic. And you can call me a ***** all day and it won't ever bother me, since I'm not even a fan of Floyd. And you're *******ed tactic of trying to move the conversation off center won't work on me, I've dealt with you clowns for too long. The point in all this is only one thing, you're a bunch of ignorant hypocrites.

 

So you're not going to watch the video or read the transcript right? Why you bother to quote me except to troll? atsch


**Btw in my other post, replace ***** with hiding another agenda. Happy?

 

Donaire no longer does year-round testing since Conte stopped footing the bill. Nor do any of his other boxing clients at the moment. And I fail to see how it's a good idea to have any active strength and conditioning coach or adviser also playing a significant role in overseeing testing. That just screams conflict of interest as it is, but when you add in the fact that the person advising both the fighter and the testers is a confessed cheat, there are even more reasons to be skeptical about such reform.

I see no reason why these sentences shouldn't be written about Conte as well, who's had multiple clients test positive since he's come back BTW. The reasons to give the benefit of the doubt in his case are no different and no stronger than they are for Heredia.

 

Where's the transcript in the video, I'm not sitting through 10 min of a video listening to people talk German, just paste it.

 

Albeit tangential, but you bring up a good point. And in testing, a lot of things can go wrong and it's not just because Conte started Vada, although you know he is just a figure head right? There's a few instances of Labs Gone Wild, but again those topics are tangential.

Conte is a business man, he's not a chemist, not much education in this particular field. He's entirely unlike Memo. What we have in Memo is the whole deal. Guy is a walking DOPE LAB resource. Conte is the salesman on late night infomercials. They're both suspect, yes. But Memo is the raging Elephant in the room. That's a big difference to me.

 

So Marquez took a page from Pac's old playbook. Since they want to shove the 5th fight down our throats, Let them BOTH juice to at least make it interesting

 

It's ironic you come in with a trolling attitude but you won't bother to watch the vid. Btw, one could turn on the translated captions to english too. :roll:

 

VADA hasn't exactly been transparent about Conte's role with the organization, having previously denied he had anything at all to do with the organization and then merely suggesting he's a figurehead or sponsor when pressed further.

Heredia's specific role in the US Track scandal was distribution, not creation, just like Conte. He talks a big game about creating undetectable PEDs but as far as I know no one has ever mentioned a single concoction he's actually developed himself.

 

Trolling, I'm not the one who went to the depths of youtube, to find a GERMAN video, and post it on an American website, then claim that those who don't view it are trolls. That is the epitome of trolling, I bet you didn't even bother watching, just posted it because it was in German and you knew no one would care, then go on with your trolling rant...

 

Conte is a self righteous scumbag. He has zero credibility.

 

Vada is headed by Margaret Goodman. :roll:


Heredia is the son of a chemist and has a degree in kinesiology from Texas A&M. You don't think he knows a thing or two? :-(

You sure you don't have a large hankering to reduce Memo's role?

 

Right and she's been quite opaque when it comes to Conte's specific role with the agency.

I'm sure he knows plenty, but I'm sure Conte does too. The fact remains in their scandals, they both pushed drugs, rather than made them.

BTW, since you brought up Heredia's credentials, wouldn't those also justify a clean fighter wanting to work with him, given his background knowledge of strength and conditioning? I certainly think there's more of a reason for such a choice than hiring a mere businessman.

 

^^Seriously, wtf you on?

In case you logically minded ppl still have unusually high degree of doubt about Memo being dirty.


http://www.usada.org/uploads/6-25-10%20Arbitrator%20Award%20110.pdf