Victor Conte sides with Pac. Floyds kind of in a corner now

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  1. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Victor Conte - "I would not want to single-out Manny Pacquiao because I have no direct evidence that he has used any performance enhancing drugs. That being said, I think we need to be suspicious of everybody at the elite level. What he's doing, to go from the lower weight divisions up to many divisions higher and maintain his speed and power- is that suspicious? Yes it is. But are there people throughout Olympic or professional sports history that are just genetic freaks and have a mindset that's powerful, and I guess the question is, 'Could you do what Manny Pacquiao does?' or 'Could other fighters do what Manny Pacquiao does and be clean?', I believe with hard-tech nutrition and training and these other available methods like this intermittent hypoxic training which has some of the benefits, the same benefits you would receive from using EPO, I believe it can be done."
    "I don't think Manny should be singled-out until some specific information comes forward indicating that he has used performance enhancing drugs."
    "I was contacted by people associated with Floyd Mayweather when they were having the judge arbitrate how to come up with a (drug testing) program and what I recommended and I clearly understand Manny Pacquiao is not the first athlete that has had an adverse psychological response to having their blood drawn. Asafa Powell from Jamaica for many years was the world record holder for the 100-meters, the world's fastest human, in Beijing said that he was affected by having his blood drawn before the 100-meters there. Not it may only be psychological, but it's a valid explanation. Some people don't like it and it has an effect upon them,"
    "I think you got to take it a step at a time. And I don't think you can just walk in and take over the sport and implement Olympic caliber testing by USADA all at the same time. I think you have to compromise, you have to look at the specifics of boxing and you have to develop a program that is tailor-made for the sport of boxing, so I suggested 5 days out because there are certain things you can do to more easily circumvent as opposed to using the 14-day or the 24-day out as a cut-off for testing. I would recommend 5 days, but if you're hungry a half loaf of bread is better than none and I think you need to compromise. And I don't think it's ever going to be perfect,"
    "Manny Pacquiao has now came up and said that he is willing to do the testing all the way up to 14 days before, my opinion is, they need to make this fight. Let's get it on. That's a compromise that should be accepted by Mayweather and all parties concerned need to understand just because Manny Pacquiao agreed to do the USADA testing and do what Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather did doesn't necessarily mean they're clean."
    "People that are determined to cheat could still use drugs and like I say, you can sign the fight today and start testing five weeks before the fight, who's to say they're not both using anabolic steroids for months? For months and months that you do a series of cycles of steroids you can still maintain that benefit and improvement in performance. We don't live in a perfect world, I think you need to compromise. I would like to see, for the benefit of all those in the world of boxing, I would like to see Floyd Mayweather agree to a 14-day drug testing that Manny Pacquiao said he would comply with and let's bring this fight."
    "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that."
     
  2. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    there you have it.

    interesting that Conte is an enabler for drug cheats- and has a criminal rep and all- but now he s being hired as an expert for drugs in the fight against it- kind of ironic.
    it kinda reminds me of a Frank Abagnale Jr. (Catch me if you can) type situation , where a master fraudster ends up working for the FBI catching his own kind.
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hmmm very interesting. Thanks for posting that dude. Can I get the source too please?
     
  4. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I didnt expect him to talk like that. I thought he would be backing Floyd saying why not test up until the fight
     
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  6. Rapid

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    Mayweather will do what he wants to do.
     
  7. Ech110

    Ech110 Active Member Full Member

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    wow, good read. Sounds legit. Have to agree with just about everything he said
     
  8. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    [url]http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-10947-Filipino-Sports-Examiner~y2010m5d25-I-was-contacted-by-Mayweathers-people-Exclusive-Interview-with-Victor-Conte-part-2[/url]
     
  9. stiga

    stiga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good post...
     
  10. Cocteau

    Cocteau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very important information from Conte, who along with Floyd sr. campaigned to include "blood" in tests - floyd fan' favorite source in countering this debate.
     
  11. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Some people are still gonna somehow manage to twist this around on Pac somehow...
     
  12. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a good read... Especially about being able to cycle on and off while not in serious training. Year round would be the only foolproof way...

    Either way Floydboys stuck to Conte as he was the know all and end all on steroids.. Can't wait to here their biased thoughts on this...
     
  13. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post. I heard Conte being interviewed on Pedro Hernandez's show a few months ago and he said if they used a 14 day deadline they may as well not bother, as it's so easy to taper off EPO and HGH with that deadline. Weird that he seems to have changed his mind.
     
  14. robpalmer135

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    personally his opinion counts for nothing but i do not see how this is him sideing with Pacquiao.

    "I think you got to take it a step at a time. And I don't think you can just walk in and take over the sport and implement Olympic caliber testing by USADA all at the same time. I think you have to compromise, you have to look at the specifics of boxing and you have to develop a program that is tailor-made for the sport of boxing, so I suggested 5 days out because there are certain things you can do to more easily circumvent as opposed to using the 14-day or the 24-day out as a cut-off for testing. I would recommend 5 days"

    I agree this is a good system but Manny would not agree to that.

    "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight"

    That was not up to Mayweather he has no clue

    "I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that."

    Mayweather already proposed 14 days.
     
  15. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^^Contestant no1... The first man to reinterpret anothers words...gotta love it..