Victor Emilio Ramirez stuns Alexander Alexeev in shocking upset

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Dec 29, 2008.


  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lll
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    U keep bumping up these thread in joy like if it was your little brother who wrote this an hour and a half ago:

    You didn't even write down Ramirez' name, called him a cab driver and clubman from a boxing record (I told u he was a 2-time national champion), u picked him to lose badly to Alexeev and now making up these threads as if you saw it coming? Man, Alexeev remained on stool but you must be out on the floor.
     
  3. elindiomonzon

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    i knew ramirez would win
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My take on Alexeev-Ramirez

    Wow what an upset, I never saw it coming. What I originally said in Axe’s thread was it’s impossible to judge a fighter from a boxrec record, especially Argentinean fighters can make surprises as the majority of them are totally unknown outside of Argentina, so we had to wait and see what Ramirez could offer - and boy he delivered!

    I’d split the fight itself to two parts. Alexeev started very well, landing crisp shots on head and body, but the first was the only round where I saw his usual explosiveness and power. Ramirez caused trouble by cutting down the distance and moving in mostly with his hands held up, so Alexeev couldn’t find the openings to counter, and Ramirez had success inside. Still, Alexeev was much busier in the early rounds to win most of them. But after the 5th, he was breathing heavily, and from that point, he could throw out the speed and technical advantage of the window. The style caused a lot of problems as Alexeev couldn’t create the distance for his punches, but clearly the stamina issue was the turning point, as Ramirez started to land more often and rocked Alexeev via body punch and head combos in the 6th. Although Alexeev had a good 7th rocking Ramirez with the same kind of punches, but the explosiveness was missing and couldn’t finish him off. Alexeev was very tired in the 8th and Ramirez attacked aggressively, and in the 9th, he rocked the Russian with a very clean left hook to the chin, and in the end, he hurt Alexeev via huge combos again. Alexeev never went down and was alert in the corner, but out of energy and bleeding from the mouth it was clear that he’d only take unnecessarily punishment, so the corner gave up the fight.

    Ramirez didn’t match Alexeev’s skill and speed level, but with toughness, overall good defense and coming forward style overcame some early Alexeev moments, had success at the ropes especially when the Russian got tired, and showed very good raw power forcing Alexeev to quit on stool.

    This fight showed clear signs of lack of experience for Alexeev, a very skilled, great CW prospect, who couldn’t overcome stamina issues (never had a fight past the 6th) and the style of Ramirez, who is the Zuniga type of hard hitting, tough, determined come-forward puncher. And now the deserved winner of the WBO interim CW title. Another shocking example of a relatively skilled, but very tough and hard punching fighter beating a technically far more sound, but not complete fighter, just like Margarito vs. Cotto or Baldomir vs. Judah.

    Absolutely huge upset in my book, I had (and still have) very high hopes on Alexeev. But there’s still plenty of work left in the gym.
     
  5. BigBone

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    Alexeev interview:

    Alexander, what was the reason for your defeat?

    It’s a lot of reasons. I was not in the best physical form. I had good tactics in the fight, I was winning on points, I was in command. I don’t know what happened to me in the ring.

    What you can tell us about Ramirez?

    Nothing special. Before the fight we had studied him very well. He’s a very strong-willed boxer. That’s what rescued him.

    None of your previous fights had lasted more than six rounds. Did that affect you?


    When I leave the ring, I want to win by knockout. But in the fight against Ramirez, I wasn’t adjusted from the very beginning. I had good tactics and can’t say that I was physically tired, simply in the final rounds I couldn’t do what I wanted.

    Who made decision not to come out for the tenth round?

    It wasn’t me. I was able fight on further, but my trainer told me that it is better not to risk it and I obeyed.

    After the fight, Ramirez said he’s ready to give to you rematch in Argentina. You agree?

    Yes, I’d be fine that the fight take place in Argentina. He came to Germany to fight in my territory, now I’m ready to fight in his territory. It’s only fair.

    You think this rematch will take place in the near future?

    Not right away. It’s necessary to wait for his fight against Enzo Maccarinelli, then it will be possible to speak about rematch

    Will you continue to work with trainer Fritz Zdunek?

    Yes, he wants to, and I do too.

    When are you coming back to Russia?

    In a week. First it’s necessary to resolve my affairs in Germany.



    That's called class. Willing to take the rematch in the opponent's backyard. Not blaming the trainer or his decision to pull him out. Still respecting and trusting him in the future. Sounding confident despite defeat.

    I certainly look forward to his return. :happy
     
  6. PolishPummler

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    Straight from the horses mouth...he was not gassed.

    He flat out just didnt want to be in there with Ramirez anymore.