Victor Emilio Ramirez vs Ali Ismailov WBO CW Title

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  1. andyZOR

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    Goes to show how poor Alexeev is Lol
     
  2. PolishPummler

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    Adamek should target Frag and Ramirez.

    Both very beatable and really a easy route to unification.
     
  3. Rock0052

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    No doubt. Since going for the big "name" guy in Hopkins didn't work, Adamek might as well unify against two guys he'll have no issues beating and help build up his CW accomplishments.
     
  4. emanuel_augustus

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    Ola Afolabi/Ramirez makes good sense now to determine the WBO champion. This is a pretty good matchup, too. Afolabi should be able to outbox the crude VER.
     
  5. TommyV

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    :nono

    Stamina was the issue.

    He has everything else to be a fine cruiserweight champion.
     
  6. Taylex

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    SD to Ramirez 116-112 113-115 115-113

    Who should he fight next?
     
  7. Odo

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    Nah! Ramirez's controversial victory over Ismailov doesnt prove anything in regard to Alexeev.

    Alexeev ran out of gas against Ramirez and wasnt able to continue fighting after 9 tough rounds.Obviously,he had totally underestimated the tough Argie being used to knocking his foes out within the first few rounds.
    I am not looking for excuses.Alexeev lost fair and square.Poor stamina is no excuse at all.
    I very much that he has learnt his lesson.I for my part still believe in him and hope that he will soon regain his confidence!
    Well,to be honest,I was quite disappointed watching him fight very lucklustre and mediocre against Matt Alexander in his first outing to a ring after his loss to Ramirez.


    As for Ramirez vs Ismailov I havent seen that fight up to now,but to lose a split point decision on Argentinian soil against the home town boy let me think that Ismailov would have probably won that fight on neutral soil.I may be wrong of course!
     
  8. emanuel_augustus

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    I had Alekseev up 86-85 when he was stopped by Ramirez. He controlled the early rounds with his jab and in and out movement, but when he started to fade a bit, Ramirez increased his aggression and AA had no answer to Ramirez's spot attacks.

    For me AA reminds me a lot style-wise of Jirov. A very upright, ramrod stiff Euro style fighter with a good jab, straight left hand, and good ability to judge distance, but hasn't shown that extra something that Jirov had. Maybe it's that he doesn't have Jirov's power, conditioning and resolve. Jirov was a killer as a young fighter, AA hasn't shown that yet as a pro.

    Odo, did you think he beat Alexander? I've seen some accounts on online where Alexander claimed he was jobbed in that fight.
     
  9. PolishPummler

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    Full fight is up on youtube.
     
  10. vlad

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    Max Alexander always complaned he was robbed in his fights. The same story was after Ali Ismailiv fight. Probably he's right.
     
  11. vlad

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    As to Ramirez-Ismailov fight, obviosly Ramirez would not had a chance to win in Russia or in neutral spot. And I wonder how Alexander Alexeev could manage to lose this sloppy, sluggish Argentinian guy. He gonna beat him after two weeks of jogging
     
  12. emanuel_augustus

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    Pretty good scrap.

    I thought Ramirez controlled it early, taking 5 of the first 6, then Ismailov seized the initiative and swept 6-10. They split the championship rounds and I had it a draw, 114-114. I don't see a robbery here at all.

    This was basically a brawl, Ismailov had the better skill when he chose to use it, Ramirez is essentially a pure brawler. Not a bad fight.
     
  13. Odo

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    Thanks for the info,emanuel!:good
     
  14. Odo

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    No,he isnt right in saying that he was robbed of a deserved victory vs Alexeev.

    Alexeev won all rounds I ve seen(not really sure anymore-6,7 out of ten rounds).Nevertheless,Alexeev showed a less than stellar performance against the harmless but durable American journeyman.
    Very often Alexeev was too inactive and too cautious against an opponent he should have slaughtered within the first 4-6 rounds.
    Alexeev needs 2-3 very convincing victories against relatively easy opposition to regain his confidence in my opinion.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    I agree with you.

    Having heard the reports on the Alexander fight, it sounds like it could've been the strategy to have Alexeev go the full 10 against a relatively harmless fighter just to get the rounds in. Just a theory on my part, of course, but Alexeev's late round conditioning is something we'd only seen tested vs Ramirez as he'd never gone a full 10 rounds before. In fact, he'd never been past the 6th round before his last 2 fights. We'll have to see if the next guy he's in with lasts "longer than expected", too.