Victor Galindez W15 Eddie Gregory (Mustafa), 1977: who here saw it?

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  1. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was going to start a second thread about Galindez-Lopez II. That's an interesting fight because I've read on various forums that it was not necessary the robbery that it was originally reported to be in 1978. Again, I did not see this bout so I cannot say.

    Concerning the Galindez-Gregory fight, is it possible that Gregory held back deliberately because he sensed that, had he been more aggressive, Galindez would have hurt him?

    People have always said that Gregory blew it by not being more aggressive. I am wondering however if Gregory simply couldn't afford to be more aggressive given Galindez's counterpunching skill and power. Maybe Gregory was already taking as many chances as he could afford to take.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point, A lot of fighters know when to let go and when not to gamble...Eddie felt Victor's power and Galandez had a solid chin
     
  3. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's just so hard to say.

    Eddie just rarely put things in 4th gear & just like staying in 2nd gear. 2nd gear against a Victor Galindez---who already had some mileage and tough fights--just isn't going to get you the W. I have no doubt Eddie had the tools to win the bout & he did have youth on his side. Eddie could've done more bodywork & he had a real hard right hand to the body he threw. Galindez was a master at countering off the ropes, but those body punches would have to take a toll on a guy. But beating a Galindez is not an easy nights work & a guy will have to take some chances in there.
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure, you could be right. That said, I don't think he was hurt at all from the knockdown, and he didn't seem really hurt at any time in the fight - other than from Galindez's ball punch in the 13th.

    I think Eddie had a good chin and could take some massive shots, as he proved against Michael Spinks, but to me, I don't know, it just seemed that he never had the killer instinct to go after a guy and seize the fight by the throat. Perhaps he had concerns about stamina, I don't know, perhaps he was cautious because he had to respect Galindez as you say, but I think he just lacked that bit of mettle to dig down and get dirty at the moment of truth.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    And that's exactly it. All that fantastic power and no-where near enough aggression or fire to make half decent use of it. Even an Arguello type style would have been excellent for him - passive and smooth early while dissecting an opponent and ramping up as the bout goes on until that final conclusive finish.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually just watched their second fight and thought that Galindez won it by about three points. Lopez did well with the jab but I liked Galindez's shots better. Lopez threw more punches and the commentators kept harping on how Galindez couldn't get off and how Lopez was making the fight, but Galindez still landed the better punches for mine in most of the rounds and showed some really good defense. Lopez hardly hit him with a power shot all night long.

    **** I hate Gil Clancy's commentary. He makes soom good observations, don't get me wrong, but he is biased as hell. The way he was scoring the fight it was like he had Lopez winning by a landslide. Pure shite.
     
  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just another point I'd like to bring up, what in the hell happened to Yaqui Lopez between fights one and fights two?

    In the first fight he looked like a skinny kid and got mauled pretty bad I thought down the stretch. In the second fight he came out looking like the rock of Gibraltar and Galindez couldn't push him around as nearly as much.

    One of the biggest changes in body shapes I have seen in such a short time.

    Does anyone know if he made a conscientious effort to pump weights for the rematch? He certainly looked a hell of a lot stronger for it, whatever it was he did.