Victor Ortiz vs. Joan Guzman

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  1. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    @ 147

    Lets say Ortiz cant find an opponent and needs a keep busy fight. Guzman can make the weight comfortably and without cheating the scales.

    How would it play out?

    Personally if Guzman isnt completely rusted and can still perform like he did in the Funeka rematch I think he would be more competitive than Berto was.
     
  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dont think he could keep Ortiz off him... Guzman could punch a little at Junior feather, even though he kept his speed when he moved up , he seemed to leave his power there at JF... He was maybe an average puncher at best at LW, so as a fat welter, he's probably barely hitting harder than Malinaggi right now... I agree that with his speed he could, open up on Ortiz a few times, but i think hes too small... Hell be like another Steve Forbes when he moved all the way up to JM,WW a gatekeeper at best,but to small to beat the top contenders... Guzman has showed a good chin for the most part (although hurt by Funeka) but Whats gonna happen when his chubby little but gets nailed by Ortiz? Who knows though Manny and Forbes carried their chin up.
     
  3. ripper13

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    Joan would probably come it at 154, just for the sake of consistency, I think Victor can rough him and up and overwhelm him with power
     
  4. Doc

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    Ortiz by KO
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Ortiz W TKO, likely via corner stoppage, or wide UD
     
  6. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does not compute.
     
  7. MarioBrothers

    MarioBrothers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if guzman can take punches with big punchers at that weight and if he could carry the weight comfortably retaining some of that slickness then i'd pick him to at least win a close decision. Ortiz would be very relentless though and would **** him up if he goes trough the fight looking like **** like he did in his past few fights
     
  8. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. pochy51

    pochy51 New Member Full Member

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    at 147 Guzman can be as good or better than in their recent fighting. My only question is how could have affected their lack of activity at the age of 34 years. Usually this has been its weight in the night their battles (Soto, Funeka I and II, including his latest
    fighting Davies). So I see no problems in maintain their speed while improve their stamina and power, since it would not have to wear your body to 24 hours to make weight before. On the other hand, Victor Ortiz represents a major challenge, only for their
    strength and punch, technically the abilities of these two are not on the same scale. If Guzman can stop the rust and be in good physical condition, would have no problems in passing over Ortiz in a wide UD.
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    i doubt the fight will happen
     
  11. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    #1 Selcuk Aydin has been the WBC Mandatory for over a year, so if he can't find an opponent, he'll just fight him OR get stripped of his belt... it's that simple.. with that said...

    Guzman has the skills to easily outbox Ortiz, but he's older, smaller, and more inactive.. Oh, and i think Guzman is suspended... He tested positive for something..
     
  12. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz for sure. Joan just doesn't have enough power to keep Ortiz away
     
  13. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Segura-Calderon comes to mind here.

    I see the much bigger man imposing himself on the older smaller fighter on route to a stoppage victory.
     
  14. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is Guzman in line for a title shot?
     
  15. Boxing Fanatic

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    guazman aint even significant any more. hasnt for years