Thanks for sharing! This is typical Joe Frazier: relentless pressure over the opponent, always moving forward, working the body and throwing viscious left hooks until break the other guy down.
That's not a jab.[EDIT: Oh, nevermind-- I assume you meant the punch at :35] BTW, where did you come up with your views on "shoulder snap"? Only asking because, as I've mentioned before, you use the term in a specialized way that differs from how most people I know/read use it. Is your opinion that the jab at :35 is a harder punch than a more conventional power jab (where a puncher steps in and snaps his shoulder and throws a tight, straight punch without the sidearm action)?
Yes, definitely. It's way riskier to throw as well. Look at the opponents head taking the impact of that jab. If you only saw his head you would think it was a hook. By the way, this is such a hard punch to throw. Let alone in a fight. Frazier was a true pro.
To make a long story short, I read Joe Louis' book on How To Box a long time ago. I loved just shadowboxing in my room or w/e. Using his technique on how to punch, I was starting to punch a lot stronger. Then one day, I threw a punch and my whole body shook. It was scary. I couldn't tell if it was right, but it was addicting to do, because I was punching so damn hard. This was a bout 7 years ago. For 7 years, for fun, I shadowboxed with the shoulder snap. It got to a point where I realized that I could honestly hit. That's when I started going to the gym. I didn't know what to call it, until I saw Mike Tyson describe it as a shoulder snap.
I disagree. Boxers get all the snap they need in regular power jabs, imo. If anything, you only lose power by interrupting the momentum that had already been generated when you turn over your shoulder like that during a jab.
See, I thought that Tyson (like others) used the term way more broadly than that. He does the exaggerated shoulder action in the clip you describe (the one where he's in dress clothes punching for Larry Merchant) but he delivered most of his (devastating) hooks without that extra extension.
It's a different kind of snap, which I assume you know and meant. What a boxer needs is subjective and has to do with a lot of things, but Frazier's shoulder snap jab is most definitely a harder punch than the normal power jab you're describing. Though, it would help if you had an example, just so we're on the same page.
His demonstration of the shoulder snap wasn't good for showing people how to do it. It's like a basketball player trying to describe how to get height on a jump by showing you a 360 dunk. You can use the shoulder snap with no body momentum, even though it's not a great idea. It's not confined to Tysons form in that clip.
@mrkoolkevin I found a good example: Mclellan had a wicked shoulder snap to generate his power punches. You can see it clearly here. Notice how his shoulders pop up and down https://streamable.com/r1nor And here is a clear display of him using it to put Jackson down You can see that huge shoulder pop going into the punch. https://streamable.com/rzttm
I see glimpses of Mike Tyson when watching Frazier in this clip, they are similar in many ways. Tyson wouldn't necessarily have a easy day with Frazier.
