Um...you are talking about something else. Nobody is arguing about the enhancement of frame rates in video footage. But what does this have to do with the ability to slow down the frames? NOTHING. Ever see a replay of a Joe Louis punch in slow motion? No, must not be possible, in the 40s they filmed at like 3 frames a second so it cant happen. Obviously higher quality, the higher the frame rate. But claiming that the punch cannot be seen because of the frame rate is absurd. I can take a 100 shots of punches from the 80s, 70s or 60s and slow it down as much as I want and still be able to see the projection of the punch. Ie, the point of this video. You are essentially saying no punch could be seen in slow mo because of lower frame rates.
I agree, even with Norris and Julian Jackson in 1989, I have a clear enough video where I can capture the punches direction.
Bruce Lee threw punches which couldn't be seen because of the frame rate being 20 frames per second at the time. Camera men had to ask him to slow down. That was in the 70s. In the 80s and 90s cameras are 30 frames per second. Now you have some footage which is 60 frames per second but most is still 30 frames per second. That Hearns punch is fast but it's not the fastest I've ever seen, Taylor, Jones, Leonard, all are faster.
That's how a Motorcity Cobra strikes. Nottingham Cobra is something else entirely. No venom, all bluff.
Right, but that is not to say his punches could not be seen if the frames were slown down...which is actually what they did to make Bruce Lee's punches visible. Yea, I'm not sure why this is even an argument. Here is a slow mo replay of Hearns punch on Pipino Cuevas from 1980. The punch can clearly be seen in slow mo. I know, it must be magic. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raa1mY44J0Q[/ame]
Film - any conventional film - is shot at 24 frames a second, regardless of the year. Less film used, less budget. 24fps is the optimum. There was no change from the 70s to the 90s in frame rates. No idea where you got that from. Nowadays, with digital, they can video in much higher rates if they wanted to using Red or Phantom digital cameras. Film is still 24. Bruce Lee was filmed at higher rates only for the arty slo-mo shots, not conventional shots. He had to slow himself down for the cameras to register, but even then, it's just too fast to see. The last hit on O'hara's face is just a blur (1m36s): [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usdcpWXPaDY[/ame]
That shot was devastating, no doubt about it, but I agree with those who said that the quality of the video/camera has a major part to play in this. I always thought that videos of this figh had a crappy quality compared to videos of the same year and always suspected it was because it was filmed outside. There's a lot of punches in this fight that you don't see well and I blame the quality of the video.
We always throw around the word 'lightning' when we talk about speed in boxing. This is a case where it's actually justified.
It's the quality of the video. basically, it's not broadcast quality. It may look acceptable on the computer monitor but it's not broadcast quality. And the numerous compressions already done on it and then finally edited, slowed down etc will screw up the quality even more. No doubt it was a fast as **** punch, but the video here makes it super human. A broadcaster master would reveal more clarity.
Sorry dude you are wrong. First off the resolution is so low that details of the video is so low that it makes the punch that more blurry. Second, the frame rate is is 29.97 per second (not 24 as some one said). Even if you slow it down to 99.9999 percent, you still only have data for the original 29.97. If it was blurry at 29.97, it will still be blurry as **** at 1 frames per second. All you did was play blurry frame longer. In sports today, there are high speed cameras that assist with sports broadcast like a baseball bat swing, foot race, etc. etc. In essence, it looks like a phantom because it was shitty video not because it was a superhuman fast hands. And no, even in the old days, video was 29.97 / 30 frames per second. It has been like this in North America for 70+ years.
greatest ko ever, dont be so modest by the way iceveins, your hearns highlight vid is awesome and is a good addition to the thread. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZdLJAYzV9M[/ame]
Great shot, defenitly a 1 shot K.O., no matter how much he was bieng battered beforehand, Duran was perfectly conscious before that shot, then he was sleeping, from 1 Hearns right hand