VIDEO: AJ's Corner waving Towel at the end of the 12th?

What i don't understand is how this youtubers have so many blindead, mindless followers. Whateverer they say or claim and noone even check, they trust them completely, and are ready to die for them.
And this ***** are as dumb as it can get.

As far as the 12 round, its full 3 minutes. The screen clock was wrong. Even team Usyk have explained this. But you need like 10sec. to check this. I have checked this straight on the fight night and the bell ring come exactly at 3 minute, not early, not late.
But that tower weaveing is as dodgy as it can get.

 

I've seen a fight where the towel was thrown in, the ref picked it up and threw it out and the fight continued.

 

Nah, they weren't trying to stop the fight. Eddie Hearn had feinted...

 

Didn't see your response, my bad. Anyway I'll give you my reply. However, you're are bit on tilt...


Whilst I acknowledge in the screen shot you show, Usyk had his glove up, I never said that it was a scoring punch. I said it moved Usyk's head back. And caused him to reset. Which it did.
(Now if you want to argue that it was Usyk that moved his own head back, fine...it still caused him to reset, so the outcome was the same.)

If you watch the video on the dazn app, the shot comes at 00:12:25. You can see clear as day the above happen.

The round ends at 0:12:27.

The towel spin also happens during the above two seconds.

So was the towel spin meaning:
1) That they are signalling for the ref to stop the fight?
> Seems like bad corner work

2) That they are preparing to throw the towel?
> Seems like terrible cornerwork

3) It was a method to signal to the time keeper to illegally end the fight early?
> The 12th round ran 3 minutes, and the 10 second timer was also correct.


I personally think it is one of two things: (1) bad corner work as they weren't watching the clock, and their fighter whilst getting caught was still slipping punches.

(2) them getting excited and trying to pressure the time keeper to end the fight early. Much like fans whilsting at a referee in other sports.

But neither of the above should have, nor in fact did change anything that happened connected to the fight. Thankfully.

 

Eh i don't get why some people have hard time to just say - yeah i was wrong. Ain't that hard.
Your initial post

Then you start explained how it knock Usyk heads back, when that punch completely didn't land at all.
But yeah you didn't say that was a scoring punch lol.
Again from the replay it looks like, just like i explained, but i had a 3 different fight replays, and with a different camera, and it was quite clear that Joshua didn't even touch him with that shot. Then i had to waste time to replay again and to screenshots.

As far as the towel. Anyone who knows Martial Arts know for what this is used. This is like waving the white flag - retreat/surrender.
While i can name a concrete fight, but i have seen plenty of time corner do this to stop the fight. A lot don't want to throw the towel and do it in an absolutely necessary. If you look at Klitschko vs Puritty for example, Klitschko corner didn't want to throw the towel, but his trainer jump into the ring to stop the fight. Some look at throwing the towel as humiliation or let's say it last resort.
Again there is plenty of fight if you can search with corner waving the towel with the intention to stop the fight, and referee do exactly that. We see that in Kickboxing as well.

Now, you better not read through the lines. Firstable for corner to start waving/throw the towel, they need a time to react, this doesn't happen in the exact moment as someone start landing heavily. Secondly Usyk did misses punches in that onslaught, but he also landed quite a few, and every single one hurt Joshua, and he was on the rope.

Thirdly i was the first to SAY that the showed clock on DAZN was wrong, and the ring bell comes on the right time, exactly at 3:00.
Unlike most, i'm 100% unbiased when commenting. I even did a thread about Joshua, and that he deserved respect, cause he always fight top opposition, unlike the rest in the division.

And this is important. I don't claim that their idea to waving the towel was to STOP the fight or whatever. At the end of the day, no one knows exactly for what exact reason they did this. We can only guess.
What i do say tho is this is used to safe your fighter, stop the fight, and not embarrass your fighter by throwing the towel.
And again you have a point with the round, time left and everything else, and i acknowledge this.
But there is also a factor where the last 4 round Joshua took a hell of a beating. A lot of Usyk punches have accumulating effect, and Joshua face was all busted up.
It was all very clear how bad he was, after the bell to the 12 round. He coulnd't get off his stool for like whole 5 minutes or so.
Even when he get TKO by Ruiz, he was on his feet, and when the doc check him he was straight up back on his feet again.

Again i'm not claiming that they wanted to stop the fight. Only they know for whatever reason they were waving it. All i and the rest have said is this is for what waving towel is using - to stopping a fight.
Whatever the reason it was, that was dodgy moment as hell.

 

And know there is news that Sky Sports wiped the footage of AJ corner waving the towel.... Tell me how this aint a dodgy asf stuff. Some say they have done this to distract Usyk and makd him to stood back. He is a 100% a sportsman.

 

It's an odd one, why would anyone want to stop a fight with literally seconds left of the 12th round?

Weird.

 

Okay, whilst I can agree with a lot of what you just wrote, you do seem fixated on “winning the argument” just as much as I am. So it’s just kind of funny…

i.e. You object to me saying that a punch landed causing Usyk’s head to go back, and Usyk to reset, which is how it looked from the initial camera angle in the fight itself, AND in the replay angle from the video this thread is based on. You then went as far to reference a third camera angle to say, Aha! Usyk took it on his glove! Look I took a screen shot.

So I did actually acknowledge I was wrong about Joshua “hitting” Usyk. But that doesn’t change my point that it still: (1) caused Usyk’s head to move back (2) caused Usyk to reset.
And given you bring up your martial arts experience, it is very strange to me that you are fixated on this point, as you well know that every strike doesn’t need to land to be an effective tool.

Well as you bring this up, I can tell you, if it's me, I don't care about the method a corner uses to stop the fight. The outcome is the same to me.
HOWEVER
There are also rules that cover
1) what happens when a team member enters the ring. i.e. it forfeits the fight.
2) "throwing in the towel."
NOW "throwing in the towel" means when a person from the corner notifies an official they want the fight stopped.

But answer me this, how on earth is a referee meant to stop a fight if you don't either approach/get on the appron, or at least throw the towel into the ring?

I am pretty sure most would agree being closer to the seating and not near the apron and then swinging a towel around your head for two seconds before the bell goes is not an effective way to notify the referee you want to stop the fight immediately.

Who was even swinging the towel around their head?

Okay, I didn't say you weren't trying to be unbiased, but I do think you are looking for something that isn't really there.

I disagree. "embarrass your fighter" is irrelevant once you stop the fight. The outcome is the same. I will be angry if you stop the fight with two seconds to go with me defending myself in a championship fight, I won't care how you did it. But I acknowledge that the corner is there to at times save the fighter from himself.

Yup he took a beating, knew he had lost, was likely exhausted and so was getting checked out.

If you are not claiming they wanted to stop the fight. What are you claiming? You actually need to explain why it was dodgy...