Video analyzing Pacquiao's offense?!?

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  1. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Anyone remember the video that analyzed Pacquiao's offense and the correct way to nullify it? I believe this video used excerpts mainly from the Cotto, Clottey, and Marquez fights.
     
  2. Bogotazo

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-Ucms_pa8&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

    The guy's bias sometimes shows through a bit obviously but the use of footage is interesting.
     
  3. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JMM analyzed Pacmans offense and how to nullify it.

    But JMM ain't boxing guru ****.

    *****s are.

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  4. EpsilonAxis

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    JMM has the perfect style in reality for Pac...he's just as fast as Pac, and knows how to take a half-step back get get Pac to lunge in, then counter effectively.

    The thing with Pac and Roach fighters is that he's ALL about positioning...Pacquiao throws a punch, but trains himself so that when he is finished with that punch, he's not in a position to be countered...he's on either side of you. That's pure Roach training...angles...

    JMM, however (and even Morales) are guys who can take a step back to keep you in range, and then come back at you...now it's YOU scrambling to effectively keep JMM in range.

    JMM also realized that you can't just jab with Pac...you HAVE to block that left hand of his...keep your right hand up and ****ing parry that ****, because Pac LOVES to simultaneously slip your jab and throw that left to the side of it while you throw your own.

    IMO if Pac and JMM fight again...it's going to be more interesting than Pac's recent battles...
     
  5. Bogotazo

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    Woooord.

    Match the rhythm, always fluidly ready on the toes, take away range, pivot laterally to create a new angle, throw a combination, circle to the left consistently to land left-hooks & right hands, parry and counter, disrupt your own rhythm with an occasional attack or body shot, time shots between his own flurries.


    In before a simple-minded nuthugger claims Floyd is just Marquez/Morales + better defense.
     
  6. divac

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    There are two parts to that well made video.......


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314pcxGkD3o&feature=channel_video_title[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-Ucms_pa8&feature=relmfu[/ame]

    Those videos clearly show and prove that Pacquiao's recent opposition have been there to target and hit at Pacquiao's leisure.

    The only opponent Mosley, since Marquez that gave Pacquiao movement did'nt have a clue how to fight off the backfoot.
    ......Mosley's movement drew Pacquiao off his offensive rhythm, and he was forced to lunge in and throw himself off balance numerous times in that fight.
    ......the problem with Mosley is that he was incapable of getting off on the counter and make Pacquiao pay for being off balance.


    Those measuring Manny videos are great......the speaker tells of the misconception that Pacquiao has an added offensive repertoire to his game since the Marquez fight, then goes on to shoot that down by showing Paquiao's connects in combination vs his recent stationarly opposition, then flashbacks to the Marquez fights to show the same move and punch selection attempted vs Marquez, but being thrown off balance because Marquez is offering the movement and then making Pacquiao pay with the counterpunching.

    .....same punch selection, different results when the opponent does'nt station himself and offers movement.
     
  7. Pacman-Forever

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    I don't understand why they compare Pacquiao's performance and opponents in totally different weight divisions. Let see if Marquez can do what he can do to Pacquiao at WW or JWW.
     
  8. EpsilonAxis

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    I agree with this although Cotto was a fighter that wasn't stationary until he was MADE stationary by Pac...Cotto has always had really great ring movement but after getting hurt by Pac he couldn't pull the trigger like he did early on.
     
  9. westbo

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  10. tmsbry

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    The one fight he didn't show was the hatton fight, hatton had alot of movement
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at the measuring Manny Videos, or better yet look at the Cotto fight itself......Cotto early on was'nt offering movement.
    He was startionary and tried to duck and ride with Pacquiao's faster hands.......

    Cotto did'nt offer the movements until Pacquiao's beatdown had been well under way.
    .....by that time, Pacquiao had built momentum and too large of a lead on the cards.
    .....and if you look at the Cotto fight past the midpoint, Pacquiao grows increasingly frustrated because Cotto is running and not offering a stationary target.

    .....even against a beatdown Cotto, Pac is made to be frustrated over movement.
     
  12. Leon

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    The maker of that video is going to get so many hits after Juan-emmanuel III where Juan still troubles emmanuel.
     
  13. sailor pops

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    I don't think so. Manny won't be weight-drained like in their first 2 bouts. Marquez will leave the ring on a stretcher.
     
  14. badassQatari

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    :lol:
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    In the first two fights he wasn't too far behind in handspeed; they were matched in terms of reaction time though.