Video Breakdown of Pacquiao's Issues with Technical Boxers

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If Mayweather wins he won't look anything like Marquez doing it. He'll potshot from the outside, disrupt Mannys flow with single shot counters frustrating him.

I think this fight is hard to call.

 

this victor guy thinks floyd and JMM styles are the same he is laughable, one only need to watch them fight to see the difference in style :good

 

couple of things. I agree this video was focused on Manny's struggles vs a good technical fighter but i wanted to stress that JMM didn't quite outbox Manny in any of the fights. Some watching this video may think 'oh look, the minute Pacquiao faces a technical fighter, he's in trouble' but reality is that JMM was as much in trouble as Manny was during all the fights, Manny was a huge struggle for JMM as-well. Naturally people looking at this video may project this to a Manny vs Mayweather fight and conclude that if Manny struggles with technical fighters and Mayweather is the #1 master pugilist, Manny has no shot. I want to put the breaks on that quick as no technical fighter has had it easy with Manny, he's being a huge obstacle for technical fighters so Mayweather is in for a challenge.

Also, i agree Mayweather's performance against JMM has to be commended but we all know styles make fights. JMM is a counterpuncher so his worst possible matchup is Mayweather. Pretty much Floyd countered JMM and and beat him at his own game; JMM was totally outside his comfort zone.

back to the video. Some of those tactics, mainly - 1. forcing Pacquiao to overextend 2. faking/feinting 3. reading Pacquiao's feints 4. exposing his linear attack

these are all pretty basic and you se many fighters employ this. Algieri tried to force Manny to overextend for instance and some of the other tactics are basic tactics others have tried. JMM got to know Pacquiao pretty well and stylistically, he matches up well vs Pacquiao so his successes cannot be generalized as 'he's technical so he gives Pac trouble'. JMM is a natural counterpuncher who is willing to trade; Pacquiao is an offensive juggernaut so it makes for good boxing. Again, JMM's technical prowess isn't what troubles Manny, it's his willingness to counter whilst trading punches, risking getting hit himself. Other technical fighters like Floyd are not the same type of counterpuncher. Pacquiao outboxed Bradley and he's pretty technical himself, no? In fact Bradley outboxed JMM! So, it comes down to more simplistic tactics IMO - willing to trade punches by countering, looking for KO. Bradley, whilst as technical as JMM, wasn't willing to do this and i suspect mayweather won't either. JMM is a smart boxer who employed different tactics but it was his familiarity with Pacquiao and his risky countering/trading that made for good fights. Again, this is more simplistic and just JMM's style, which is different than many other technical fighters...

as it relates to Mayweather, i highly doubt he will use JMM's tactics of slugging it out with Manny and taking punches. He is very different than JMM and whilst a supremely technical pugilist, i din't think his style favors him. He won't trade punches cause his #1 goal is not to get hit and he lacks KO power to finish the fight with 1 blow; this plays into Manny's hands. We shall see

 

Don't matter what dnagerousity said.

I'm the boss round here.

You gonna report for duty that night so I can talk shlt to you.

Don't be scared like the bltch you are.

 

I think Floyd will keep his distance and outbox Manny. Controlling the distance is the key for Floyd. Floyd will get hit and will be vulnerable for the first 3 maybe 4 rounds , but then I cant see manny landing much at all.

Floyd fought JMM at a measured distance, and so the fight was not very exciting to watch was it. Counter Punchers never match up too well as far as entertainment and workrate goes.

This may be a little different obviously, as Manny is the aggressor, but He has trouble against guys who can glide around the ring, and Floyd is the best many has ever had to chase.

I can't see Floyd getting dropped by Manny. I can see him giving Floyd hell if Floyd shows up the way he did against Maidana, but Maidana had a few good tricks up his sleeve that worked for him along the way.

I have had a ton of pleasure watching both these fighters go to work.

But I expect Floyd to win this matchup. Id like to see Manny win, but I dont think he has the right tools to get the job done against Floyd.

 

i's not off topic because we are still talking about tactics...

The problem with Bradley is that, whilst a technical boxer (who outboxed JMM), he is more cautious and defensive. See, i would categorize JMM as a 'master counterpunching tactician KO artist' who is not defensive (he is willing to trade blows) and looks for the KO. Bradley is a 'master defensive counterpunching tactician' who is cautious and looks to outscore you. The latter is no win vs Pacquiao simply because being too defensive and cautious is a no win formula against a fighter as busy, as versatile and as fast as Pacquiao. Mayweather is more like Bradley than he is like JMM so again, i think MAyweather will need to be more offensive minded and take more risks than usual to win.

So back to the title topic, 'technical' fighters don't necessarily cause Pacquiao trouble, it's a specific type of fighter and JMM has a unique style which matches up well vs Manny. Having said this, he's had a really tough time dealing with Manny.

 

this is exactly how i envisioned the fight too :good, way different from what victor saying it would be, floyd will not take risk against a dangerous fighter like pacquiao. :deal

 

I agree keeping Manny honest is key, but i don't think Floyd will show him the power to keep him honest.

You are absolutely right in that Floyd is more versatile than JMM but again, i don't think versality is what helped JMM have success vs Pacquiao, it was just countering whilst willing to trade punches. i definitely see Floyd connecting with left hooks and right hands but here's the thing, Manny will throw at the same time Floyd's throwing, what happens there? with manny's speed, angles and the way he moves his head, he could be ducking punches and connecting at the very same time Floyd is throwing. How will Floyd react to this? that's what i want to see. I really think Floyd will need to use a more offensive minded strategy in this fight...