(VIDEO) Broner Vs. Escobedo: Round 5....BODY SHOTS

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  1. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you saying that there is only ONE way to cheat at the scales? And that way is rigging them?

    It's not that cut and dry, cheating at the scales can and does mean a lot of things. Agreeing on a contracted weight, then missing it, not by a little, but by a whopping 3.5 pounds, and then blowing the rehydration weight limit, that can be considered cheating.

    If only because one fighter put in the effort and the work to make the cut, and the other seemingly shrugged his shoulders and decided maintain his strength rather then try and make weight.

    Not a level playing field = cheating.

    For what it's worth, I think there are worse things that he could have done, but not calling what he did 'cheating' because it doesn't match a very narrow definition of the word is sort of missing the spirit of the thing.
     
  2. theword

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    But he couldn't, could he? What do you think the repercussions would be had Escobedo done so?

    1) He'd miss out on his big shot
    2) He'd never be allowed back on HBO again
    3) He'd miss out on his career high payday (I assume it was a career high, I don't have his previous purse numbers)
    4) He wouldn't get paid AT ALL because there was no fight.

    While technically you're correct, he could have walked away, it's not like it's really an option. Didn't he also have a newborn or something like that? The guy don't fight, he don't get paid, and he backs out of this fight, he'll never get another big opportunity again.
     
  3. SweetHome_Bama

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    Yes there is only one way to cheat at the scales that is to tamper with the scales.

    Broner didn't cheat at the scales he clearly and openly didn't make weight.

    Not a level playing field isn't cheating, being misled into thinking it is a level playing field is cheating.

    Escobedo knew when the fight started that Broner only made 133.5 and was rehydrating. He could fight him or not, the choice was his and he had indicated that he would not fight, which is why report was that the fight was cancelled.

    He was paid an crazy amount of money, some say close to 1 mil and a shot at the title in a eliminator, to continue with the fight, nowing Broner was over 130 and he agreed to it.

    There was no cheating everything was out in the open.

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    Lets compare that to Margo loading his gloves against Cotto and pathetic ass Gatti rigging the scales to come in overweight without anyone knowing.

    Those are instances of cheating.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Wait a sec Gatti rigged the scales ? I just thought he came in over weight ? Where is the evidence that he rigged the scales ?
     
  5. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great body shots. Be real though, Escobedo did nothing to try and block those. He lifts his arms to high and forgets to defend against body shots. Nothing impressive when put in context
     
  6. SweetHome_Bama

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    [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/apr/09/arturo-gatti-joey-gamache-weigh-in[/url]

    [url]http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-11/sports/17929683_1_joey-gamache-arturo-gatti-nysac[/url]

    [url]http://www.sunjournal.com/node/34180[/url]

    [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/7/22/957709/gatti-gamache-a-damaged-fighters[/url]
     
  7. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its really not that hard to understand
     
  8. greg turchy

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    :deal
     
  9. greg turchy

    greg turchy Guest

    ownage
     
  10. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Too bad that win meant absolutely NOTHING.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Rigging the scales is Bama's version of Michigan W's "Floored" :rofl :lol:
     
  12. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    I don't know about that situation, but I know that Broner didn't cheat at the scales like you try to claim.
     
  13. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good example of that about 5 pages ago.:lol:
     
  14. Imperial1

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    How did Gatti rigged the scales when it was the NYSAC 's fault for not weighing him properly ? Still it was dirty no diffrent than Broner the diffrence is that Broner was made to weigh in twice not the case with Gatti and Gatti weighed closer to the middleweight limit . But both acts are equally dirty ..But for the Gatti fight the the NYSAC shares some of the blame for allowing that fight to go on !
     
  15. SweetHome_Bama

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    Gatti rigged the scales by having him and his crew influence the NYSAC not to weight him properly. It isn't just a innocent mistake why he wasn't weighed.

    It is completely different than the Broner fight. Broner was weighed correctly and didn't use corruption to hide his true weight. He was 133.5 and said I'm not cutting to make weight and that was it.

    That you try to spin it like they are the same shows you have no intelligence or no integrity, either way you aren't worth wasting any more time over.