(VIDEO) Broner Vs. Escobedo: Round 5....BODY SHOTS

You're something of an absolutist with this huh? For one thing, like I said, I agree that it's nowhere near as bad as loading gloves or using PEDs to gain an unfair advantage.

Let me put it this way:

Broner is the A-side, Escobedo is B-side. Broner, I believe knowingly and willfully didn't make the stipulated weight because it probably would have weakened him with a drastic cut close to the fight.

It's true that in the strictest and purest sense of the word, Escobedo did have a 'choice' as to whether or not he would fight. But, once you examine it and realize that Escobedo as the perennial B-Side would basically be ****ing his entire career, any chance of getting another shot, any chance of getting back on HBO, and any money for the months long training camp he put in, it becomes pretty obvious that he really had no choice at all. He had to fight or he would not only be screwing himself out of this payday, but potentially many other paydays to come.

Broner et al must have known this, we've seen this kinda thing before in boxing. With that in mind he knows he can miss weight if he wants and buy his way out of the jam by throwing some cash at the problem.

This fight could have been scrapped and Broner would have been fine. He's the attraction, HBO has put their shine on him (gave him a "2-Days" show and a headlining gig for the B.A.D. card) and all he would have to do is get on twitter and run his mouth about people being scared to fight him or whatever.

What I'm saying is, that by your own logic of cheating being the illusion of a level playing field when it is in fact not, that this fits the bill. Broner misses weight by a fair bit and in doing so doesn't weaken himself, then misses the rehydration clause so as to further not weaken himself, and knows that his non-connected opponent, who did boil down to make the 130 lbs limit can basically do **** all about it.

That is why people think it's cheating.

 

:dead

 

I have to admit Broner has a much better defense than Berto and his punching style isn't as ugly. But the lack of good footwork is similar.

 

Youve been owned so many times it aint even funny.Just shut the **** up ******

 

Oh so Escobedo being allowed to make a fair choice, you know the guys weight and you we are willing to offer you 3x your purse to make the fight stay on, is as dirty as Gamache being essentially lied to and given brain damage from Gatti who was considerably heavier than him and who never made weight to begin with. Mind you Gamache never got a dime for Gatti missing weight. So please tell me which one is cheating, the guy who was told exactly what happened and given a choice and considerable compensation for his trouble or the guy given brain damage and had his career ended because he was pretty much lied to and never given a real choice in the matter, and he wasn't even compensated a dime for it.

 

I never knew Gatti's team had that much influence The only one lacking intelligence is you by trying to give a pass to Broner for basically doing the same thing ..Its OK though I wouldn't want to waste any more time with anyone who defends a weight cheat :good

 

Both were cheats any weight cheat is a cheat no matter how much it is ..Escabado could have risked his career as well but he made the choice because of the extra $ Gamache wasn't so lucky ..Did Broner weigh in as much as Gatti no but is that excusable ? I don't think so ! There is a reason for weight classes and the fighters should respect what they agreed too .

 

broner didnt cheat. but it wasnt professional and ****ed up for esocobedo given his circumstances

 

please Ecobedo vs Broner was 3.5 lbs difference on the scales and a 5lb difference on fight night. Broner did not cheat Escobedo knew what he was getting into. It was probably the best thing that ever happen to the guy he got Paid.

 

Yeah, training and draining yourself to get down to 130 while your opponent doesn't bother gives no one an advantage... Are you ****ing stupid?

 

who said it didnt give Broner an advantage?:huh Who said Broner didnt try?

 

My boy DeMarco is gonna beat Broners ass! Probably not but it will be an entertaining fight. Hope it happens.

 

It wasn't a weight cheat. Broner let Escobedo know what weight he was and what he was going to weigh in at. Broner/Haymon allowed Escobedo to either walk away or come to the negotiation table and get paid substantially more for the weight difference. If Escobedo felt he was being cheated he could have gotten back on the plane and go home to be with his kid. Or he could have fought on principle and refused the extra cash and just took the share of the penalty that the Ohio commission gave him if he was truly worried about paying off his team and was truly offended, upset, and/or aggrieved by this.

Gatti lied, him and his team knew he was severely overweight and hoped on and off the scale before it could even balance and refused to get back on it according to the court case.

So Gatti lying is the same as Broner saying "yep, I couldn't make it. I did cardio and the sweat box but couldn't get the 3.5 off. We still want the fight, let's make a deal".

So tell me how is saying "yep, I missed the agreed upon weight, I'm willing to pay you much more for the trouble and to keep the fight on." the same as knowing you're severely overweight, essentially rigging the scales, then not even having the decency to give your opponent a heads up and allowing them to make a business and health decision? Are you even trying to say the two are even comparable on the level of egregiousness and disrespect for the sport and the health of a fellow competitor?

 

in my book...broner did cheat the scales...i want him to fight someone big and skilled, see how he likes it

 

whats the name of that book? who would you like him to fight?