VIDEO - Can Fury win the Usyk rematch?

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    It took till round 8 with a very wary fading Fury throwing a disgustingly poor 1,2 for Usyk to find that gem of a punch. Lightning won't strike again. Usyk running into uppercuts is the bigger concern.
     
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  2. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can Fury win the rematch,no doubt he can but Usyk is not an easy fight for anybody. I’d feel more comfortable abut the rematch if Sugar was gone and somebody else was at the helm to get Fury slick boxing using his movement and range and keeping things long to keep the distance between him and Usyk. Okay Fury had some success with uppercuts but at the expense of keeping distance and fighting short which also makes him a lot easier to hit as he found out ! Fury is simply not the boxer he was under Sugar and the Kronk style is not for him,people can blame the Wilder fights or age catching up but simply put Fury is too predictable and easy to hit under Sugar and he does not even carry the power to pull it off. I honestly think it will be or less if the same as the first fight,Fury always fights the same way under Sugar with no plan B !
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gotta agree here. The Kronk style has regressed Fury tbh
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury has been down 8 times so odds on Usyk can land flush again and hurt Fury.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    It has because it's back and forwards in straight lines CRAP and relies on power which Fury does not really posses late fight as his energy drains although he can still rock people with arm punches because he can throw with such weird angles and timings even when exhausted which caught Usyk by surprise a few times.

    Fury knows this though. You find all great great fighters ascend the teachings of any single trainers they accumulate and add-on. He didn't really use too much of Sugar hill's teaching but the uppercut has become a real weapon now, always was a weak element for Fury. Log hammer stiff jab has gone because his bad elbows don't allow for it and it makes him set in straight lines where his lateral movement is really his gem. You can't be coming at Usyk in straight lines. In fact it was Fury in that mid fight making Usyk look like the straight line fighter.

    Fury already said he probably should go for a KO in the rematch but that's bad new because going after Usyk for a KO is a fools game .Better off to just try and finesse the first fights tactics which I know he will do. Not like he can't win that way like the bodybuilding bum can't.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Fury needs to apply the pressure early, if the KO is there to go for it. Trying to outbox Usyk is a fool's errand because he's just that good.
     
  7. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It'll be interesting if he tries to outbox him again or goes the Wilder 2 strategy.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe time to bury the hatchet with Uncle Peter?
     
  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That would honestly benefit Fury in multiple ways.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know what the beef is but it seems like the right thing to do, anyway.
     
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  11. Mickc

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    I’m not sure that way may be possible but Fury certainly needs to part ways with Sugar if he truly wants to avenge his loss to Usyk imo .
     
  12. gollumsluvslave

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    For me it's pretty clear after multiple re-watches that Uysk started better and won 1&2, but Fury started to find his timing, and range and began catching Usyk on the way in - the first big change in the fight happened mid-way thru round 3 which I still scored to Usyk - albeit close. Then Fury swept 4,5 & 6 clearly, with Usyk looking a bit befuddled and 'lost' for the first time in his career - but it was only round 6, BUT Fury did seem very much in the driving seat at that point...

    ..then came the next big shift in the fight IMO - and it's wasn't the nose shot in round 8, but an adjustment by Usyk in the middle of round 7 - coupled with Fury starting to blow a bit. Usyk adjusted the way he was coming in to nullify the uppercuts, and stop Fury timing him - Usyk finished the round stronger but I still scored it to Fury. However Usyk then came onto big things in rounds 8 & 9, and although Fury did REALLy well to recover, I still had Usyk comfortably winning the championship rounds - Tyson was potshotting mostly
     
  13. Rumsfeld

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    Agreed. Usyk started coming on very strong later in the 7th, and by the time of the nose shot the following round, he had seized command of the momentum.
     
  14. covetousjuice

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    It seems like Usyk has to be the favorite but Fury is skilled and creative. Somewhere around 2:1 odds for me.
     
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  15. Mark Anthony

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    Does he get good 10 11 and 12 if he doesn't hurt him?