Video: Deontay Wilder vs Chris Arreola - Preview & Prediction

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  1. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I watched the video. Anybody that had Stiverne beating Wilder cannot be objective when evaluating Wilder. That was such a wide UD easy win, and easily predictable. I see Rumsfeld having "fun" by willing to fall flat on this face. So much for reasonable discussion. :barf
     
  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Arreola has no chance. He doesn't even have a punchers chance.
     
  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Who had Stiverne beating Wilder? Did I actually say that? :lol:

    Anyway, I don't think that Stiverne-Wilder was easy to pick. And I still maintain that Wilder is difficult to gauge in any case, because Stiverne is the only real name on his ledger to date.

    And while I can understand and appreciate people disagreeing with me, at the same time, I don't think I said anything that was unreasonable in the context of the discussion points.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    It's heavyweight boxing. Of course he does.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    There was another clip of Larry from the promo preceding Klit-Arreola. He worded it a bit differently than the excerpt I showed. I believe in the other clip I didn't use, he stated "Arreola is the best young American heavyweight prospect since Rid**** Bowe". I'm paraphrasing off memory here, but it was something like that. Then when the promo segment ended, Lampley asked Larry to expand on that, and this is the part I showed in the opening.

    But my main reason for showing that was what I believe was the crux of Larry's point that I believe is applicable in the Wilder fight - Arreola being an "aggressive pressure fighter". I still think that's the kind of guy who is most dangerous to Wilder. It might not wind up being Arreola, but I think he fits the bill and fills the basic style prerequisite to have a great shot.
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with Rummy, if Arreola can fight half as well as his potential he has a chance early because he can punch very hard, his combinations can be fast, could give Wilder problems no doubt about it............I expect Wilder to win the fight, but if Arreola lands one really good right hand Wilder will go down. Arreola will have to fight the referee, the crowd, the judges, boxing commission, etc., so he should go for it..................How did Arreola go from not being ranked to being #9 on WBC? Why has Wilder been given 4 voluntary defenses? Why did the WBC not take the WADA recommendation? It appears the WBC is protecting Wilder.................Povetkin has been cleared, so tell Wilder to fight Povetkin, his mandatory ASAP! Wilder will fight another voluntary defense, the WBC will rank a # 40 fighter #1, whatever it takes.............

    Big question; which Arreola will show up for the fight? Wilder picked Arreola because he looked bad in his last fight and the WBC created Arreola for Wilder to beat................probably by knockout............but again, I give Arreola a puncher's chance by all means...................will Arreola has enough stamina to walk to the ring?
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Arreola wins it will be down to how bad Wilder was rather than down to how good Arreola is, because it's clear Arreola is shot, he was in shape in his last fight and still looked terrible, he will likely be in the worst shape of his career for this fight due to the short notice of this fight, so Arreola really shouldn't win.

    Wilder for all his flaws has power and I can't see someone who is as easy to hit as Arreola, especially to the right hand, not get blown out once Wilder lands his big right.

    Arreola of course has a punchers chance but he could't put away Kassi or Kaufman does he really have a chance of putting away Wilder based off this? Arreola has the pressure style but he showed against Kassi that he simply didn't have the conditioning to put the kind of pressure on to stop Kassi even when he had him hurt and I can't see an Arreola with 4-5 weeks of training having the energy to put on a sustained enough attack to put Wilder away, or even get to him in the first place.

    Wilder KO's him inside 6 rounds.
     
  9. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Considering the history of Wilder's title defenses, this fight is not surprising. However, that doesn't mean that it should be justified, because a heavyweight titleholder shouldn't be allowed to defend against a non-top 30 opponent, especially Wilder, who hasn't fought anyone of note during his title reign (Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka).

    Arreola is a cannon fodder here.

    I think that your prediction might be a combination of overrating Arreola and underrating Wilder.

    Wilder might have flawed defense, but he is not going to just stand there and let Arreola get to him with his basic attacks. There are levels in boxing and there is a reason why Wilder is currently a top 5 heavyweight while Arreola is not even top 30.

    Chris Arreola at this point in time is a tough journeyman level fighter that should only make you worried if your defense is so bad that he is able to catch you clean cut with a power shot on the chin, and Wilder's defense is not that bad. Like I already mentioned in one of the previous posts, Arreola is not capable defeating any decent well schooled fighter.
     
  10. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this post says it all.
     
  11. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    The thread has gone mad. Cristoball is a slug he has Norfolk enchants.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I totally get where you're coming from, and agree wholeheartedly that Arreola was a stylistic Nightmare (pun intended) for Wilder at one point, but its beyond apparent to me that Cristobal is shot to hell and everything including his power is gone. He looked horrible in the Harper and Kassi match before the encounter with Kauffman, and I still had faith in him at that point and picked him by stoppage in all three, and he arguably lost all three.

    Its also pretty apparent that Wilder has a far better chin that most on this site wish to believe. Molina just stopped Adamek, and while yes that's an old shot Adamek, I would have still bet he had a better chin that Wilder, same goes for Duhaupas (great inaccurate pronunciation:lol:) he didn't used to be this much of a pressure fighter, but he realized that was the only way he could beat both Wilder and Helenius, and while Duhaupas got to him and frequently, he never seemed close to dropping Wilder, yet he stops Helenius, who most would think has a better chin than Wilder as well.

    Wilder will counter the hell out of Arreola, this will be the Wilder of the Stiverne match, he won't take any risks or try to slug it out with him, Wilder used to be made to order for Chris, now its Chris who's made to order for Wilder. The Stoppage will come fast and it will be very brutal I'm fearing.

    But I'm hoping Chris isn't as shot as I think he is and he can put on a show and push Wilder, but no matter how hard I try, I can't see that happening.
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see Arreolas chances at 2-3%. If Wilder has an injury, or gets cut early he could take advantage of it. I see a 80% likelihood of Wilder KOing him early (first 4 rounds). 17-18% late KO or UD decision for Wilder.
     
  14. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with a lot of this. Especially your point about the short notice of this fight for Arreola. This is a matchup greatly softened by denying Arreola ample preparation time for a shot at a world title. His reputation for his "between fight" conditioning is suspect at best and notorious at it's worst.
     
  15. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So hos is Arreola supposed to avoid his punches?