Video: Did Lennox Lewis have a "Glass Jaw"?

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Did Lennox have a "Glass Jaw"?

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson was never knocked down without a prolonged beating (unless we're talking the very end). Lewis was one-punch KO'd twice. There isn't a comparison. Tyson had a better chin, hands down.

    As to Lewis, he had a decent chin but lacked the elite recovery ability that makes up for lack of an elite chin.

    I rate chins on three catgeories. One-punch resistance, accumulated damage resistance, and recovery. You need two of the three to be top tier to have a "good" chin, all three for "great". Mercer, Holyfield, McCall were top tier for all three -- great chins. Tyson was top tier for one-punch resistance and accumulated damage -- good chin. Larry Holmes and Tyson Fury are top tier for accumulated damage and recovery -- good chins. Lewis was top tier for accumulated damage only -- merely decent chin. You have merely a decent chin, you're going to get stopped on occasion.
     
  2. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, but he was gone... he didn't have good recovery powers.
     
  3. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    You're really stretching.... Yea, he got up, barely, but he was gone....
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't think he was totally gone he got up too quickly and stumbled, but when the referee stopped it he was protesting and clear headed after IMO. As I said it's a debatable one, but I'm not questioning the referees decision as he was closer than I was.
     
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  5. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he did not have a glass jaw and while he did get sparked twice the two men who got him were very good punchers.
    Its not like he was fighting a boxer like Chris Byrd and was staggering all over the place.
    I think you can question his ability to recover as Larry Holmes got dropped by Shavers BUT got up.
    I think his chin was fine.
     
  6. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You must not've seen the Douglas fight then. An unfocused, relatively untrained Tyson took a beating from someone who was bigger/stronger than he was for 10 rounds and he STILL got back up after getting knocked down. Oh and for the most part when Tyson fought Lewis, Lewis had to put a beating on him for 8 rounds before he finally lost the match.

    When has Lewis undergone such a beating and got back up? When Lewis got sparked by single flush shots, he was down for the count. On top of that he's also been put on wobbly legs by another hard hitters like Briggs and Tua. Tyson on the other hand has been in the ring with hard hitters himself like Holyfield, Bonecrusher, Rudduck, etc yet wasn't put on wobbly legs nearly as quickly as Lewis was.

    Tyson unquestionably has a better chin than Lewis and one of the best chins in the heavyweight division period.
     
  7. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not counted Knock dowm vs Akinwande

    Wobbled by a Rahman jab in the rematch

    Wobbled by Grant

    Wobbled by arm puncher VK

    Wobbled by Briggs

    None of the above are so called big punchers, Rahman claim to fame is Ko'ing Lewis, thats it, otherwise he never stopped any note worthy opponents, same with the rest of the above list, they never stopped any top opponents and the no mas Golata is not a big punch stoppage by Grant.

    For the claim that he fought all those big bangers, well, none of them landed, grossly obese Tua or the Ghost of Mike Tyson were in no position , neither was Tommy Chin and trail horse Mercer was never a big puncher..

    Conclusion, Lewis has a average chin at best but he could never ever rely on his chin in a fire fight, for example, if Tyson would have landed the Botha shot on Lewis it would have been the 100 count. vs Tyson took several flush full leverage right hands from Lewis , the same right hand that sent Rahman into the orbit, without going down.
     
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  8. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't think Briggs was a big puncher?
     
  9. The Long Count

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    I don’t. Check his resume
     
  10. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    37 KO's in the 1st round, even against weak opposition, out of 67 fights would suggest big puncher. The footage makes that clear. Great HW? No. Big puncher? Yes.
     
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  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I cannot name one fighter with a pulse Brigg stopped, the only thing I can come up with is maybe the weird exhaustion stoppage of the White Wolf in a truly pathetic fight.

    Alex Stewart was like 27 or 28 ko's in 27 or 28 fights (from memory)against nobodies until he faced Holyfield, once he stepped up he never stopped anybody and was wiped out by Tyson in the opening round.

    Conclusion , Briggs is not a big puncher except against Tomato cans.
     
  12. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree Briggs didnt stop a prime elite fighter. Anthony Yardes best win is even worse. I still think they are/were both big punches, though.
     
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  13. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    None of these guys except Vitali maybe even landed decent shots. Ruddock got taken out quick, Morrison was beat before he even got in the ring, Tua was never landing the left hook, Tyson never landed anything major. Bruno couldnt beat his way out of a sack.
     
  14. janitor

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    It certainly wasn't glass.

    There was room for improvement.

    You wouldn't come up with a fight plan for a puncher, that depended upon Lewis being unable to take their power.
     
  15. The Long Count

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    I disagree. He knocked out nobody of note. I followed his career closely he would run across the ring and swarm his opposition once the competition stepped up his power vanished. Over rated puncher