[Video] Floyd Mayweather on fighting Manny Pacquiao: "He had his chance"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Scar, Aug 17, 2013.


  1. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah Broner has real talent, a split decision against a feather fisted Paulie Malignaggi really proved that..

    BTW Alvarez drew 40,000 fans to watch live at the arena in a foreign country.

    If Broner was such a big draw why was he fighting in Malignaggis home town?
     
  2. bodyopus

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    I referring to the fact that Pac was not willing to fight Mosley after he beat Margarito unless he could make 141-142 & even when he said he could, Pac still didn't fight him because he was "better than Oscar/too good". Floyd fought him instead.

    He also was not willing to fight Cotto w/Cotto coming in at the 154 limit. Floyd fought him instead at 154.
     
  3. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well he fought Cotto for the 147 title, when Cotto was champion why would Cotto come in at 154???

    Pac fought De La Hoya in Dec 2008
    Hatton in May 2009, Cotto in Nov 2009, Clottey in March 2010, Margarito in Nov 2010 & Moseley in May 2011

    Mosley fought Margarito in Jan 2009, Floyd in May 2010.

    Pac fought Mosley at 147 & wasnt exactly fighting weak opposition & ducking Mosley. in the time Pac could have fought Mosley & before Mosley fought Floyd Pac fought Cotto & Clottey, so you cant call that a duck.
     
  4. bodyopus

    bodyopus Active Member Full Member

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    After Cotto left TR, Pac needed an opponent and a rematch w/Cotto was atthe top of the list. Both Mayweather & Pac were vying to ight Cotto. The reason it fell through w/ Pac is because he wanted itat another catchweight & Cotto wouldn't do it again. Pac was not willing to face the version of Cotto that Floyd was.

    Pac most definitely ducked Cotto after Margarito. This is a fact! Mosley was BEGGING for the fight, yet hey fought Cotto instead because he "wasn't the same ighter". Roach clearly admitted this many times. Floyd fought the version of Mosley that Pac was unwilling to fight.
     
  5. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would Pac fight Cotto again after firstly destroying him the 1st time, secondly Cotto showing no improvement since that beating having fought medicore opposition at 154 & thirdly none of the fans wanted to see the rematch.

    Pac ducked Cotto after Margarito? What are you talking about?

    Yes Moseley was begging for the fight, but Pac had options and chose to fight Cotto, the same Cotto you praise Floyd for fighting at 154 and criticize Pac for fighting at 145, when Cotto was the champion at welter & Cotto weighed 146 for the fight against Clottey, check it.
    Cotto didnt outgrow the welterweight division, Pac ran him out of there
     
  6. Scar

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    He fought Foreman, who was highly regarded at the time and a proven cheating scumbag who he lost to due to loaded gloves. How often do you see fighters rematch guys that stopped them, especially proven cheaters that stopped them?. Whether you want to consider that poor opposition or not is your choice, he still fought well at 154 and proved he belongs there. Let's not forget that Pacquiao was considering Cotto at 154 only to demand a catchweight of 150 which Cotto would have told them to **** right off for.
     
  7. Scar

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    Here's a mistake a lot of newbie fans who most likely never stepped in a proper boxing gym make. You need to know that a catchweight fight means that a certain fighter would need to hire a nutritionist that would help him make the demanded weight. For Clottey he went in that fight within a training camp that focused on 147 and nothing else, he could have weighed 142 for all I care his training camp didn't focus on a contracted weight, he's free to make 140-147. Catchweight fights means hiring a nutritionist that would help him move down the weight limit he's required to which also takes a lot of work. 2 athletic pounds have NOTHING to do with two trash/****/kfc/fart/**** pounds of the average person.
     
  8. bodyopus

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    Why don't you ask Pac that, czthat was the plan. Whether the fans wanted it or not, it was almost made.
    http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/1/2...tch-refuses-147-pounds-hbo-boxing-news-june-9

    Come on dude, get real. You know it was a typo.


    But WHY did he choose to fight Cotto, that is the question? Roach says MANY TIMES Cotto wasn't the same fighter, that Margarito took something from him, etc etc. WHY FIGHT COTTO IN THE FIRST PLACE? Why not fight the #1 WW & #3 lb4lb? Why do you need a catchweight against a guy that already looks damaged though? If Cotto didn't out growt he weight, then why not fight him above 147? They had him penciled in & the only reason the fight didn't get made is Pac would only fight him at 147, when he was the 154 champ. When Floyd mentions 147 to Canelo and agrees to 152', he's a coward.
     
  9. sharpshooter

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    Foreman had 1 name on his resume.. Daniel Santos

    Foreman was highly regarded at the time, but had just the one name on his record in Daniel Santos, a fat Daniel Santos who barely had 4 fights in 4 years.

    Foreman couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag, he got the big hype from Bob Arum as he needed an opponent for Cotto to look good against, if he really was any good why havent we heard of him since?

    As for Margarito, by the time Cotto got him in the ring again he had already been smashed to peices by Mosley & had his face literally broken by Pac, he barely passed the medical for the fight..
    Just look at his eye, there was no way he was gonna win.
    Cotto didnt look particularly good in that fight either.
     
  10. spaceman

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    Mayweather had his chance to prove he's not a coward. His chance is gone now.
     
  11. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Actually I can call it a duck, and I do. Mosley was campaigning hard for a fight with Pacquiao, even showing up at the Wild Card twice asking for the fight and agreeing to every ridiculous demand team Pacquiao could come up with, and the bottom line is that team Pacquiao clearly wanted absolutely nothing to do with Shane when he was coming off his brutal destruction of Margarito.
     
  12. Sweet Jones

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    No, Scar.

    Only to those with some ridiculous anti-Mayweather sentiment or over-the-top Pac fandom would believe that asking for a version of OSDT for potentially the highest grossing fight in history in the era of Steroids was 'odd'.

    Had many of these deluded Pac fans took a step back and realized that, the fight gets made. Instead, we now see these attempts at revisionist history, acting as if Mayweather asked Pac to fight blindfolded.

    I and many others said it at the time: those railing against the testing were going to find themselves on the wrong side of history. Point blank. And judging by the numerous other top level fighters, INCLUDING MANNY PACQUIAO, now implementing it in their own fights, that has now come to pass.

    The fact that you then try to explain away the equally unprecedented $10 Million weight penalty shows this. You're totally on-board with Pac demands 'to be sure Mayweather makes the official weight limit', but go all frothy-mouth insane over PBF wanting to make sure Pac was PED free?

    Kill that noise, bruh.

    Pac's camp's short-sightedness and 'pride' killed this fight. Period. Just accept that isht and keep it moving.
     
  13. Sweet Jones

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  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    It's very easy to blame Pacquiao for accepting it today, he's clearly doing so because he has nothing to lose anymore and a big payday against Mayweather is clearly considerable at this point. Back then, it would have been foolish for him to bow down to Mayweather's demands when he was officially recognized as the #1 fighter. Not to forget Mayweather racist remarks and disrespectful attempts as he openly called him a cheater without any proof to back it up. How can Pacquiao bow down to that and belittle his own position?.

    Sure all of this might sound like nonsense to you but in reality it plays a major role in helping negotiations go through. When one side is #1 and the other side is being disrespectful only to introduce a new set of rules followed by endless public attacks and insults it's not easy to negotiate. In the end, BOTH sides didn't want to make this fight.
     
  15. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just stop it. Mayweather bowed down to Manny's $10MM per pound demand, and he even agreed to fight Manny in March so Manny could run for congress. All Pacquiao had to do is agree to drug testing. Pacquiao's own trainer said they had no problem with it at first. He later claimed Pacquiao would need a 7 day no testing window. Pacquiao then came out said he needed a 30 day window, which changed to 24 days once video surfaced of him getting blood drawn 24 days before the Hatton fight. Pacquiao was eventually offered a 14 day window which he declined, then promptly walked away from the fight and signed to fight Clottey. That guy sat there and told everyone that getting blood drawn weakened him for 3 days. It was a blatant lie that's being fully exposed considering he has now requested another fighter to undergo the same testing that he once said was unfair and dibilitated him for several days. Mayweather deserves some blame for the fight not happening, but to act like Manny doesn't deserve any blame is deluded.