[Video] Floyd Mayweather on fighting Manny Pacquiao: "He had his chance"

Thank you.

 

No it's not a new rule considering the commission themselves would penalize, regardless of amount, a fighter for failing to make the weight limit. Not to forget that no official title would be on the line for failing to make the weight limit either. Was there pressure on Mayweather for being asked to make the weight?, if so he never belonged at 147 anyway. Asking for new testing procedures IS a new rule. Ever wondered why Marquez wasn't asked to take those tests?. Of course with the negotiations going in comical fashion at the time, you will most definitely ignore Mayweather's racist slurs and cheap disrespectful baseless insults like "Cheater" and so forth which he was forced to apologize about. All these things play a major role in ruining the negotiations and it's not like Pacquiao was fighting for pennies at the time to accept demands from someone deluded and disrespectful. The only reason he's going through the blood testing today is obvious, he has nothing to lose and coming off a loss anyway.

 

Of course they would, through their own testing procedure, remember?

When was the last time we heard about random blood testing organizations carefully selected by a specific fighter before a fight?. Pacquiao's stipulation has been asked by fighters before. Wasn't Mayweather penalized for a contracted price for failing to meet the catchweight requirements against Marquez?. Isn't Canelo going to be fined $1Million per extra weight in their upcoming fight?. There are endless similar examples out there.

Nobody in Mayweather's camp believed any of his previous 39 opponents were on to anything either, when Pacquiao became an option blood testing was all of a sudden mandatory. Not only that, but Mayweather wanted to dictate the blood testing organization according to his desire. If that sounds fair to you as he was looking to fight the P4P#1 fighter at the time who was also selling over $1Million in PPV sales then you're being biased. Not only this but Mayweather was also recommending that Pacquiao leaves his promoter to make negotiations easier. Only thing left for him to demand was Pacquiao's underwear as he begins training when camp starts.

2009 negotiations for a fight in March 2010, don't forget that Mayweather fought Marquez in September 2009. He sure as hell wasn't negotiating in 2009 to fight in December of the same year considering the time-frame and Pacquiao's scheduled meeting with Cotto in November. So the racial slurs and calling Pacquiao a cheater publicly, to which he was forced to apologize for and almost taken to court, had ZERO affects on negotiations? . I hate to imagine what you would be saying had Pacquiao made such allegations towards Mayweather, surely it will mean something if it was the opposite. "Oh, Pacquiao is impressing me and the public lately so he must be on to something!, we must test him the way I want to test him!". Sure, if that sounds reasonable and fair then have fun, almost everyone saw and still sees otherwise to this day for obvious reasons. When was the last time Mayweather kicked off negotiations with anyone using that kind of pathetic cheap style?, only the desperate would accept being racially insulted, called cheaters, demanded to undergo testing procedures as Mayweather desires.

As I said and it takes no brains whatsoever to see through it. The only reason Pacquiao is accepting the tests now is because he has nothing to lose anymore and would clearly like to keep the option/payday against Mayweather open. Even if Pacquiao accepted the drug testing in 2010, before Mayweather's vacation, Mayweather would have looked to dictate the organization as he so desires and pleases because these guys would literally work for him down under. Remember their negotiations in 2012 when Pacquiao accepted everything only to be nailed with "I'll pay you for $40Million but I'd like to keep 100% of the PPV sales for myself"? . Even as a known hardcore Mayweather fan, I couldn't find any ways to defend that joke of an offer. Please refrain from name-callings such as "deluded" and whatnot, I've been exchanging posts with you in a respectful manner and can name-call similarly if not worse as I easily see through your bias and side picking in this discussion. I assure you I've been a fan of both fighters and followed them thoroughly and objectively for nearly 11 years now. I'm not saying I'm correct nor am I saying you're wrong either, I'm merely giving my opinion on what I saw happen for the past 4 years and sadly I can't find a way to back Mayweather here.

 

Yes I am engaging in a legitimate manner and gave my reasons why within my entire post. You getting in the middle of the discussion and cookie cutting what you don't approve of doesn't change anything. In the end it's obvious and simple, Mayweather called Pacquiao a cheater with no proof whatsoever and later demanded that he's randomly tested before they fight. If you were the #1 fighter in the world and most celebrated fighter, would you bow down to someone who's calling you a cheater and demanding you accept his set of rules for one fight?. It's easy to say he should have accepted it being yourself but try, even for one second if you could, to put yourself in Pacquiao's shoes at the time. No one half sane would accept such demands. Later when Pacquiao accepted all of his demands he came up with a new comical one which clearly stated "You take $40Million while I take 100% of the PPV earnings". Please man, how can anyone even dare back Mayweather up in this. As sleazy as Arum may be, Mayweather wasn't any better.

 

Which remains to be normal and nothing new in the sport. If you fail to make weight the commission will penalize you and if the other team wants to penalize you more it's their right. Clearly, Pacquiao was looking to move on with the fight if Mayweather decided to weigh in as a Junior Middleweight though with a price.

Sauerland promotions officially announced this for all their stable members in 2010, right after Mayweather mentioned it. Not only that, but they have their own testing procedures to fit their desires, as Mayweather wanted in his fight with Pacquiao.

No one asked for that exact price before but a price was demanded before regardless of what it was. That's my point when I say "It's not a new rule/stipulation requested by an opposing camp/team."

I assure you Mayweather knew they wouldn't accept testing procedures carefully dictated/researched by him to fit his purpose. Pacquiao's trainer isn't his manager, he can say whatever he wants and it will barely make a difference in his management. Here are some quotes from boxing experts at the time regarding this topic when it was fresh and new in 2010.

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Joe Goosen, Legendary Boxing Trainer: (I know he's related to Mayweather's former promoter)

"I just think Pacquiao is a juggernaut right now... and I would just say that maybe that's the reason (Floyd's) throwing up all these smokescreens and roadblocks because he (Floyd) doesn't wanna get in the ring with him (Pac)...
(Floyd) should just say yes to the fight, forget all the testing, this guy's (Pac) not on drugs. There's a little air there in all this that's just not right."

Bert Sugar(RIP), Boxing Historian and ESPN Analyst:

"A convenient way out for Mayweather"

Al Bernstein, Showtime Boxing Analyst:

“It seems patently obvious to me that Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight. The bottom line is that the fight was basically a done deal before they decided to inject the demands for blood testing into the picture. Pure and simple, Golden Boy and Floyd and his advisers created the problem, and it ended up killing the fight.”

Dan Rafael from ESPN:

"Mayweather shouldn't be making accusations without a shred of proof as he tries to discredit all of Pacquiao's great accomplishments, nor should he try to circumvent the Nevada rules by asking for blood tests when the commission has never asked for them."

Larry Holmes, Heavyweight Champion:

"I wish I could see Mayweather and Pacquiao fight, but what they're (Floyd's camp) doing right now is hurting boxing because people want to see the fight... They're trying to bring up stuff that is taking away from the fight with drug tests and accusations... I don't get it."

Thomas Hauser, HBO.com:

"There were times during the past month when the conduct of Team Mayweather had the look of an effort to sabotage the fight. A negotiator who wants to make a deal doesn’t go out of his way to antagonize and publicly embarrass the other side. But that’s what the Mayweathers and Golden Boy did."

Jim Strickland, David Diaz's Trainer/retired licensed pharmacist

“I don’t see any reason of accusing Manny of using illegal drugs in our fight.”

Timothy Bradley, WBO/WBC Jr. Welterweight Champion:

"I don't think Manny is on anything. He's just on top of his game right now."

James Toney, Multi division Champion:

"Who is Mayweather to ask for the tests? Why didn’t he ask Marquez? Manny’s not on 'roids."

Mike Silver, noted Boxing Historian:

"I think it fell apart because basically Mayweather never wanted to fight Pacquiao. He wants to continue and fight guys he can beat and fool the public.


Roy Jones, Jr.:

"Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I'm coming up in weight means I'm doing steroids? They're giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don't play with me. Either you want to fight or you don't want to fight."

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That said, remember when negotiations were going well in 2012 only to see Mayweather find another new rule of offering a static number only to demand 100% of the PPV earnings claiming "What if I lose?" as an excuse?. Didn't he openly justify that ridiculous offer by saying that Pacquiao has another life out of boxing while he has boxing and only that and needs some kind of ludicrous consideration for it?

It could be random if they test him on three different occasions. Pacquiao's team were openly playing Mayweather's game and clearly. Mayweather wanted to dictate and introduce this rule for the fight, Pacquiao's team decided to play along by demanding to be tested as they so desire, not as Mayweather wants them to. It's very obvious and clear, in the end they have nothing to prove to Mayweather except in the ring. If he wants to play mind games out of it, they will do so accordingly because they could afford to at the time being the official #1 boxing camp on the planet.

The Povetkin/Wladimir case is hardly as simple as you try to put it. Povetkin wanted Russian testing for BOTH, clearly TO SERVE HIS PURPOSE as Mayweather wanted. Wladimir told him to **** off and threatened to cancel the fight. Povetkin and his team finally broke down and accepted only to allow Wladimir to undergo testing with whatever organization he pleases. This is nothing similar to Mayweather dictating everything.

The fact that TR promoted him didn't allow Pacquiao to accept everything Mayweather demanded, which was a right move to make. Pacquiao wasn't in a desperate situation to be dictated by the #2 fighter out there. Mayweather knew Arum isn't stupid to allow him to pick pocket whatever he desires and then threw a tantrum, as usual, about TR's bias and unfairness(as ironic and hilarious as this may sound).

The videos surely came after the Mosley fight when Mayweather was on vacation. However, the false accusations started immediately after Pacquiao gave him the finger regarding every single demand he was making at the time.

Oh I would worry and have every right to do so as you clearly do in your discussion with me.

 

I believe Pacquiao made it publicly and openly clear that he doesn't want to be tested close to fight night. Don't worry about what would happen to Pacquiao in some scenario made up in your head, worry about what was actually told.

Of course Pacquiao will be open to make the fight later on, there's FAR too much money to be made, remember?. My comment was clearly regarding the same time-frame these cheap talks happened. Wasn't Pacquiao going to take Mayweather to court for it?

If you're going to take it that way because that's how you comprehend information based on situation and circumstance then be my guest. I'll repeat as simple as possible, Pacquiao WAS in a position to dictate on the negotiating table at the time and did as he was supposed to because he earned that position. Now he's down so it's obvious he has no room to dictate anything. Nothing requiring brains here, he's hardly giving up, he's nothing but a victim of fighting top opposition(something Mayweather isn't very famous for).

How did you come up with the conclusion that they're credible?, because Mayweather said so?. I assure you there will be a lot more coming(as proven already) with sets of rules that meet the desires of different fighters, pretty much like sanctioning bodies/belts.

He made the call because he's going to prison and has been pressured for a long time to make this fight anyway. Not to forget that Pacquiao was headlining events in the process in impressive fashion while Mayweather was coming off a comical showing against Ortiz. The phone call itself was another joke of an offer anyway. From blood tests to offering 100% of the PPV earnings to him. How can ANYONE half sane accept such an offer except for a desperate fighter looking for a payday?

I'm deluded for claiming that Pacquiao refused testing procedures Mayweather demanded to serve his own purpose and you're smart and clear minded for considering Mayweather's "100% of PPV earnings go to me after you undergo testing procedures I desire" a fair and legitimate offer?. Good stuff.

Yes you do care otherwise you wouldn't have spent the time to respond as you are. Those are hardly my facts, it's what happened during the time as I saw it and everyone else did.

 

I'm sure you could be a top 10 P4P'er in disguise, sadly though it wasn't apparent at all in your previous comment.

So?, does that mean his body was used to making catchweights(considering he was a comfortable welterweight for nearly 3 years already) and going through the training procedures necessary for them?.

It doesn't make sense because you didn't understand my post, which is hardly surprising really. My point was extremely obvious and clear. A fighter within a specific division can make whatever weight limit available WITHIN THE DIVISION'S RANGE as he so desires. If it's a Junior Middleweight he could come in at 148-154 depending on what his team decide is best for him. A catchweight is when a fighter weighs in at, let's say, 154 all his career and is now required to meet a specific demand/deal. Hopefully you won't remain confused.[/quote]

So?, was his team worried about anything other than the official 147lbs limit in that fight as they did against Pacquiao?. Hopefully, you're not trying to hint that the catchweight was required for absolutely no reason whatsoever, if you do then I don't think I could be blamed for questioning your boxing knowledge and in-ring experience. Why would team Pacquiao request it if it meant nothing?

There's a reason his nutritionist used the word "safely". Hopefully you will get it.

It's only nonsense when you don't understand what I'm trying to explain.