Again, you can deny deny deny all you want but its a fact that Giardello's arrangements were handled by the promoter, which is common, particularly in that era because how the hell is Giardello going to book his own hotel, arrange for sparring, find a gym etc 6000 miles from home in a foreign country where he doesnt speak the language? But you go on speaking from ignorance like youve been doing all along. I never said Ali outclassed Ziggy did I? In fact I said the first round was close and I wouldnt argue too hard with anyone who said Ziggy took it even if I didnt agree. However, Ziggy clearly lost rounds 2 and 3, he was clearly on the defensive for the entire fight, he landed fewer punchers, he took more damage, etc. He lost. Deal with it. Trying to pretend that he won in order to further pump up your hero is pathetic. I dont care about Tyson and Holyfield. That has nothing to do with Giardello-Fullmer. I also dont care what "the press" (the card which you report originating from Fullmers backyard newspaper) had to say. I can watch the entire film myself and judge, unlike you who is simply talking out of his ass when he says "Giardellos headbutt was more malicious." You have no clue because youve never seen that fight. Period. Dont lie and say you did because it has never been released and my copy comes straight from Fullmer's manager Marv Jensen. Again, another lie. The decision in the Tiger fight was not booed. In fact it was well received. The film doesnt lie. Neither did Jack Cuddy who covered the fight from ringside: "The crowd of 13,000 in the huge Atlantic City Auditorium shook the rafters with its cheers when the referee Paul Cavaliere's decision was announced in favor of a streamlined Giardello." Should we now take a roll call of all the lies youve told in order to further your agenda? Pac did not get fighter of the year 2011. He got fighter of the year in 2007,08, and 09. The only one of those years he fought Marquez was in 08 when he won a close SD. Close fights are not robberies. Period. However, in addition to beating Marquez he also beat David Diaz for the lightweight title and Oscar De La Hoya. His fights generated 100 million $ that year and in addition to the Ring calling him fighter of the year so did ESPN, the BWAA, and Sports Illustrated. So once again, wrong on all points. As usual. Muller was 3 years older than Giardello, not five. Nice try but every time you lie Im going to call you out on it and make you look stupid. Furthermore, Muller may have been older, he may have had more fights, but Giardello had been fighting at a much higher level of opposition than Muller for over a decade. You tend to take more punishment and age faster under such circumstances. However, that being said, when Mullers promoter sabotages Giardello in Mullers hometown and the best Muller can do is win by a single point then yes, I can with a straight face say that Giardellos hands were tied behind his back and against Muller, and when Muller didnt have those advantages Giardello didnt need a puny 1 point margin of victory. He decimated Muller. I dont have problem with Giardello losing to guys like Hank and Dupas both of those guys were legitimate contenders, one was a fantastic boxer and the other was a dynamite brawler. Both would have kicked the living **** out of Muller as well. Or rather they would if Mullers promoter wasnt playing games to protect his fighter. Papp didnt dominate Sandy. He had problems with Sandy, who was totally shot. The only reason Papp was undefeated was because he was so protected. The guy fought nobody with a pulse. Had he fought Sandy when Giardello did SIX FULL YEARS EARLIER he would have lost. In beating Tiger, Fullmer, Graham, Giambra, Turner, Hank, and Rivero he beat fighters who were far far better than Papp ever proved to be as a professional. All of those guys fought far tougher competition than Papp and won. Papp never did that. You are living in a fantasy world. I cant figure out if all of these lies you tell are deliberate or because you are just stupid.