Video - Max Kellerman: ''Juan Manuel Marquez is suspicious''.

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  1. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There isn't. It's just viewpoints of idiots on this board. USADA has a proven record. USADA helped bring down high profile names like Armstrong. VADA has caught bums like Peterson and Berto using ghetto juice.
     
  3. BATU

    BATU KO'S 4 LIFE Full Member

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    :rofl :deal
     
  4. Green Man

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    A guy that drinks his own urine to gain an advantage isnt going to draw the line on peds. He hired Heredia for a reason and that was to help him cheat and get away with it, so far so good he has never failed the test but he aint foolin anyone the dude is juiced to his eyeballs.
     
  5. thesmokingm

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    :patsch


    USADA ain't that great. They didn't actually have evidence on Armstrong. Instead they cut deals and strong armed the people in his "circle" to get them to confess. And there by securing their testimony.


    And JMM's doping is all the fault of USADA anyways. They're did what... take a guess? They signed a deal with Memo for his testimony not unlike with Armstrong.

    ---->>>>>>>> http://www.usada.org/uploads/6-25-10%20Arbitrator%20Award%20110.pdf <<<<<<<<<<-----

    Read the real **** from the fat lady for once and then shut the F up.

    Memo's family owns a lab in Mexico. He has a full testing lab by which he can pre-screen the drugs. He has the capability of a full anti-doping program. And with JMM in Mexico, it makes it a walk in the park. No paper trail for investigators to track, no authority so Memo and JMM are free to dope to high hell. And with JMM's avoidance of VADA, he will probably continue unchecked for years.
     
  6. Kid Cincinnati

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    Ledderman and Lampley were alluding to it very tongue in cheek during the broadcast. "Marquez has found the fountain of youth," "Marquez has turned back the hands of time," and things like that. It's pretty much the most obvious case of roiding anyone has ever seen in boxing.
     
  7. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not so much vs Alvarado or bradley, against Alvarado he had speed, Bradley he had power but was slow, but against pac, he looked like a shorter sergio Martinez, speed and power all whilst being built like a bodybuilder, and before anyone claims am a pacquiao fan, I have long been a JMM fan. But fact of the matter is he looked suspicious especially against Pac in the 4, not in the 3rd because he was slim like he is naturally and he had speed, but not brutal KO power, saying that he may have still KO'd pac with that shot...
     
  8. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    suspicious? sure.

    Means fucck all until there is proof.
     
  9. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What power and speed is hopkins showing? Hopkins isnt dropping/hurting guys like JMM is. Nor is he getting more muscular.
     
  10. divac

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    The problem with those blanket statements by HBO is that where is proof that Marquez has found the fountain if youth?

    Anyone here care to lay out Marquez' so called rise after hiring Heredia?

    Before Heredia Marquez was knocking the likes of Juan Diaz and Joel Casamayor out. These fighters had never been stopped before a Heredia-less Marquez got his hands on them.
    Then Marquez stops Katsidis, again without Heredia.

    Marquez hired Heredia to gain functional weight for the 3rd Pacquiao fight.
    Marquez did'nt run over Pacquiao here, he boxed the pants off of him.

    After that bogus decision, team Marquez gameplaned to gun for a KO.
    People criticizing Marquez need to remember that Marquez has been knocking fighters out at a higher clip than Pacquiao even pre-Heredia.


    Marquez has'nt found the fountain of youth, its never left him.
    The only time he did'nt look good was in his climb in weight to welter for the first time and that was against one of the better defensive specialist of all-time, a fighter in Mayweather that fights with a safety first approach.

    It is not the case here that Marquez was on the downslide of his career and all of sudden he's resurrected it with the help of Memo.
    Marquez looked fantastic before Memo arrived and he was allready in his late 30's.

    If you're going to accuse Marquez of being a PED cheat, you cant substantiate it with "he's found the fountain of youth".......

    Obvously there is physical decline there of Marquez that is evident.
    His quickness and speed is'nt what it was a few years ago.
    He's not quicker or faster with Memo, thats a misconception.
    He did'nt look all to quick of fast vs Bradley. Like Hopkins, an aging great always looks like he's faster than he really is against the right style opponent, slow plodders mainly.


    Should we be suspicious? Of course, we're in the age where athletes are bigger, stronger, and leaner than ever, alot of athletes are suspicious.
    Whats wrong here is that it seems Marquez is the one thats being singled out and we all know why.............
    The destructio of this guy!!!!!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1-X7ey5Y


    Now when has HBO ever scripted statements and opinions of their cash cow being suspect?????
     
  11. Kid Cincinnati

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    The proof is in front of their eyes. They have watched JMM his whole career. They know the sport inside and out and they see what he is doing. It's obvious to everyone now. You're like those people who were defending Lance Armstrong till the bitter end against a mounting pile of evidence. I used to big a Marquez fan, but I can't support what he has been doing.
     
  12. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So is Pac but until he is caught, he's also innocent in my eyes.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac wasn't caught out with an escort in his hotel room, JMM has. :deal
     
  14. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Blah blah. All VADA has caught are bums on ghetto juice. USADA has a proven record. Your point is exactly right Armstrong, et al never FAILED tests because testing is fallible. USADA recognizes this and thinks outside of the box. They will not be bought off.
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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