[Video] Muhammad Ali breaks down past champions, and Tony Galento

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  1. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll give you Ali had much faster feet, but step for step Louis' feet were more educated.
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    A lot of these mobile fighters stretched themselves out too much trying to stay away from Louis. It caught up to them.

    I’ve always felt that Rocky vs Walcott 1 has been very similar. It deceptively may seem that Walcott was close to winning, but Rocky was getting closer and closer to him every round. Landing more punches, gaining momentum constantly while the mover slowly lost it.

    There was a certain inevitability there about the final result. Similar to Louis v Conn.
     
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  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Seems kind of circular in that his opponents were only around in the later rounds precisely because he was so... “economical” with his steps. A stalker with truly efficient footwork would have worked harder to cut the ring off or picked opportune moments to ambush them. Just curious—how many rounds do you think Billy Conn lasts before Holyfield, Tyson or Foreman, etc. pounce on him and destroy him?
     
  4. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Put Bowe in front a Burger King and he comes out a day later with 30lb of excess fat. Do the same to Galento and nothing changes. Place both men in the wild and Bowe comes out 400lb and ready to bumble, while Tony is a svelte 250. Bowe is swiftly knocked down with one good left and it's all over, for we all know 400lb men cannot get up on their feet on their own. Sort of like a knight in full armor knocked off his horse.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Read a story one time that Galento was badgering Jack Dempsey about managing him and Jack got tired of it. I believe this may have been in the late `30 or early `40s. According to the story Dempsey and Galento sparred and Jack put Galento down and then said something to like " there Tony that's how you HIT!!!" Don't know if its true maybe someone else may have heard this.
     
  6. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've heard it before though it was probably here.
     
  7. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Galento and Dempsey
    When Jack Dempsey became Galento's manager in 1933, the former champion asked Ray Arcel to train the young heavyweight. "I told Jack it was a waste of time and money," Arcel recalled years later, "but he was convinced that Galento could be a world beater and so, since we were friends, I agreed."

    One day, Dempsey quietly strolled into Stillman's Gym and walked up to the balcony while Galento went through the motions of working out. Arcel recalled that Galento "was fatter than ever, hopelessly out of condition, and quite obviously doing nothing about it. . . . He didn't see Dempsey and continued waddling around the ring, clowning and wisecracking as he fooled with his sparring partners. After watching for a couple of rounds, Dempsey came down to ringside. He was wearing a beautifully cut light gray suit, tan and white shoes, and white silk shirt. When Tony caught sight of him, he gave him a big hello. 'You look like a million bucks dis afternoon,' he says to him. 'Never mind how I look, you big bum,' Dempsey answers. 'Let's see you do some work.' "

    When Galento continued to loaf, Dempsey asked Arcel for some boxing gloves. "He took off his coat and stripped right down to his white silk monogrammed underpants and vaulted into the ring," Arcel said. "Now, Tony," Dempsey told Galento, "I’ll show you how we used to do it."

    "What he did to Galento in those three minutes was nobody's business," Arcel remembered. "He ripped punches into the pudgy torso from all angles, split his lips with a terrific left, and sent the blood squirting from his nose with a right."

    Even when Galento threw his arms up for Dempsey to stop, Arcel said, the former heavyweight champion kept going. "He chased after him, throwing punches until I called time. Still breathing easily, Dempsey ducked under the ropes and began to dress while Galento stood shaking his head in a semi-daze and trying to wipe the blood from his face with the back of his boxing gloves. When dressed, Dempsey gave him one contemptuous look. 'That's how we used to fight, Galento,' he said. 'Now I'm through with you. You can find yourself another manager.' Then he turned to me and said, 'You were right, Ray. It's a waste of time trying to make a champ out of this chump.' "
     
  8. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    To his everlasting credit, Galento did beat up Jackie Gleason who told the whole story on the Rocky Marciano tv show.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    LOL I was trying to get a reaction out of someone
     
  10. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was having @reznick flashbacks from the Primo Carnera thread.
     
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  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I felt like Ali on the cover of Esquire after that thread.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    LOL @ Carnera being better than Bowe.....if that was true, Carnera likely would've gave Louis a trilogy