Video: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini Explains That Floyd Is A Con Artist

This.

PBF will keep doing what he does as long as the public rewards him for doing it.
I ain't happy with it, but i ain't either the one buying his fights .

And as much as i appreciate Mancini, i believe Maidana would beat him.

 

Like I said before (in my Floyd voice), all he said was take risk and be entertaining.. That's very vague.. Some people are entertained by chess matches, but like I said majority of people who watch, fans or not, wants to see two people throw punches at each other.. Floyd's style is centered around defence.. He'll make you miss all night while looking to hit you when he can.. That's the name of the game.. If you're not entertained, why watch? It's not like he's just starting.. He has 47 fights under his belt.. I don't know what you guys want from him.. He's been winning for 18 years, so why would he try to change for the people who want to see him lose?

 

That's not what Mancini said either. He was calling Floyd a con artist because he tells people he's going to go toe to toe, he's going to go for the KO, etc., and he doesn't. Big difference.

 

someone's hurtin...:|

 

Haters. TMT, still going strong!

 

aside from the fact that floyd does just enough to win, floyd could have fought much better opposition when they were at their peak but he avoided them at all costs, tszyu, margarito, pacquiao, mosley come to mind. most of the atg could be accused of doing that but floyd has done it more and has remained undefeated because of it.

 

12:35 i remember pacquiao went to BOB and asked to fight Cotto right after the clottey fight.

 

The way Floyd fought in the rematch was more cautious and he didn't take much risk at all. When I use the work "risk" as it pertains to boxing, it's staying within range during the fight so that natural "ebb and flow" can take place.

Floyd has the ability to do this...he has the skills and craft to pull it off but he seldom takes it upon himself to prove it. What we see is "flashes" of greatness from Floyd. But when he pot shots, holds and uses his superior athletic ability to stay out of any range, ultimately winning by outpointing his opponent.....it's where boxing fans become critical.

Boxing is what it is....it's a brutal sport meant for the entertainment of buying fans. There's audience that expects a certain level of action to feel as though they are getting their monies worth. Floyd has been criticized for not caring about pleasing the fans....which is his prerogative. And as long as he's getting the fans to buy in, why wouldn't he?

For some that's just the issue when it comes to Mayweather. Him NOT wanting to take the kinds of risks we saw from a lot of the old timers who have sounded off on this very subject is what they have problems with.

Those guys felt obligated and earnestly wanted to not just entertain the fans...but to prove something to themselves...even if it meant taking risk, losing or going out on ones shield. They weren't as caught up with the undefeated record meaning SO much....that it prevented them form going out and pushing the action.

Floyd is already a rich man, so he may not have the feeling of obligation to give the fans the best of him or to take risks that puts him in more danger inside the ring....but how Floyd got rich is the same way those other boxers got their fortunes....from fans like you and I.

It's really just their opinions but for warriors....boxers....fighters....CHAMPIONS.....they'd rather go out and take risks to earn the ultimate rewards......

For Floyd and his understanding, he's already earned that.......Which is of course money and a lot of it....which none to surprising, just so happens to be his stage name.

But for MOST of the other ATG's before him other champions in general, the money wasn't the ultimate reward. It was the challenge itself going one on one and seeking the emphatic conclusion that made them legends....win, lose or draw.

The money was of course important....why else would they RISK so much as a fighter and put their bodies through rigorous camps and then go out and take punishment inside the right? Legacy/Money......For Floyd it's strictly about the Money and that translates to performances like in the Marcos rematch.

 

I get what your saying and I could agree from a fans perspective, but I can see it both ways.. I covered what I'm about to say already, but I'll do it again if you didn't see it already...

The reason why Floyd fought the way he did in the second fight, was all because of Maidana and what he was doing in the first fight.. Floyd Mayweather obviously don't like to get hit.. He was getting hit behind the head the whole fight.. Those are not scoring blows but Maidana threw them anyway.. From a viewers point of view, it's just a punch.. It comes with the territory.. From Floyd's point if view, Maidana was just trying to hurt him by any means necessary.. Floyd is bashed for his health comes first comment, then gets bashed again for sucking with it.. He decided not to let Maidana get close enough to fight "dirty" and win by a larger margin since people claim he lost the first one...

People would be entertained if Floyd got organized out boxed the way he do other people.. That's what's probably going through his head.. People want to see him lose but he keeps winning.. Him winning 47 fights in a row fit 18 years is not entertaining...

You also can't knock his style.. A young Floyd fought exactly like people claim he should now.. He is 37 years old.. He wants to retire and still be 100% healthy.. People are complaining about being entertained by "grandpa Floyd" in his last few fights? You think the Spurs cared that Miami was the flashy high paced team, and they were the fundamental, half court, slow it down team? They play to win.. They are not a flashy team because they know the point is to out score your opponent.. What did Miami get for looking good and being entertaining, but getting beat 4 games to 1?

 

I read what you said and I co-sign regarding why Floyd at 37 fought the kind of fight he did going into the rematch. I don't fault him at this point either..... He's just got a little time to go before he retires undefeated and recognized as one of the best defensive fighters of all time. It's like the 12th and final round of a championship fight with a dangerous puncher.... You don't take any unnecessary risk especially if you've racked up 47, 48, 49 wins ect.

But Rays point was that Floyd says one thing to sell the fight and then bamboozles everyone by fighting a very different fight once the bell rings. Floyd will always be remembered as a great boxer, highly skilled and one of the best of all time. He won't ever be TBE based soley on his undefeated record and beats Marciano record. He had the skills and talent to be at a different level in terms of how he's viewed currently. Once Floyd is done...... His legacy will be appreciated for what he did....which is establish a stellar career.... Unblemished and made more money than anyone else as a prize fighter.

 

Ok I get you.. Well, if someone bought the fight because Floyd said he'll try to knock someone out, then you don't watch much boxing.. His job is to sell the fight.. If they want to nit pick about how he promotes his own fights, then I guess go ahead.. It's not like he promoted his own fights as well as everything else he does for TMT...

 

Hey *****s greatness in boxing is not measured by how much money you make ****ing idiots !

 

Bro, if you been reading the thread, no one said is was.. Don't just jump in here spewing random stuff...

 

Maybe you should read some of the previous comments before you make assumptions