Video: Tyson Fury - His Own Worst Enemy

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    My 2 cents for anyone interested.

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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent point about Ngannou 's balance , I watched the replay and have to admit Francis looked more like a legitimate boxer than I thought was possible. Plus his footwork wasn't half bad either, Still I think the gist of this whole event was Fury looked bad....
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    C’mon @Rumsfeld the guy uppercutted himself ONE time and, while slightly staggered, weathered it and collected himself to win the fight.

    It’s not like he beats himself to a pulp every time he fights. It’s time we let go of that one punch.

    ;)
     
  5. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    Francis worked a lot better on the inside and up close than i thought he would.
     
  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I'm in your corner, Rummy
     
  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Did Tyson Fury perform that badly in his last fight?
    Or has Francis Ngannou performed better than Dillian White and Derek Chisora (Tyson Fury's 2 previous opponents) combined?
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, the truth is that he looked good against Whyte and Chisora. Without getting into great shape by any means he easily controlled both.

    So it might just be that it's down to Ngannou being that much better than we thought. Time will tell.
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yes he is his own enemy.
    A little bit like the original Tyson in that respect.
     
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  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The timing of the pandemic didn't help him, but that aside, he certainly has a way of snatching mediocrity out of the jaws of greatness.
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Rummy, another outstanding job. Logical and well thought out ... you left out the part where Fury lost because he gassed but there are some regulars here who can fill that in .. ;)

    Keep them coming ... each one is a small treasure.
     
  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good Video, but I disagree that "he wasted his best years" ... nay, I'd say he S hat it, knowing he had to be selective and continue in delaying tactics for fights.

    Fury KNOWS fine well his own limitations and 1 or 2 fights a year during those years, would have Taver 'd himself quite soon.

    Nah, Fury KNOWS he would have soon faded out!
     
  13. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone on here think Fury vs Ngannou was pre arranged? I feel it was but I also felt that way with Mayweather vs Mcgregor. These crossover fights imo are just cash grabs. I think Fury got dropped which was off script but the plan was always to go along with a safe 10 round fight. I understand if people completely disagree with this
     
  14. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Member Full Member

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    "The fight was fixed" is a coping mechanism.

    1. Fury's body language completely disputes this. He quite literally looked like he'd been neutered after the post fight interviews. Looked like he was about to cry. He disgraced himself and he knows it.

    2. Fury got as much to fight Ngannou as he did to fight Chisora and Whyte, but now all of a sudden, the extremely proud boxing champion that's spent years attempting to market himself as the heavyweight GOAT chooses to sacrifice his entire image and legacy for what is from his perspective, a few extra bucks? Nope. He'd try to look as good as humanly possible, not try to carry Ngannou. Hell, you can carry your opponent WHILST still looking good, skilled fighters like Floyd, Ali and Pacquiao were good at this. Fury getting knocked down, failing to take advantage of his range, getting bullied in the clinch, throwing hard shots that bounced of Ngannou's head and then quietly and meekly rearranging the fight date with Usyk doesn't scream "this almost went perfectly according to plan".
     
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  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd certainly agree that Ngannou surprised but, then again, no one, other than his team, knew how well Ngannou might perform. At the same time, Ngannou's team did know who they were fighting and would have had a clearer idea on strategy.

    With Fury's performance, it is difficult to tell.

    There could be a number of reasons or combinations of the same for why Fury looked poor. It might just be that Ngannou bamboozled Fury. I can't see this being the case, but there will have been few things about Ngannou that caught Fury by surprise, I suspect - not least, his physical presence and strength.

    But I also believe Fury's perceived failures are partly due to him having gone into the fight blind, without any real thought about how he would address the unknowns, assuming he would work it out in real-time. I also think he has gone blank once his default approach fell a little flat. The KD might well have had an effect in this respect.

    Either way, there was little variation in tactics to deal with what Ngannou was showing and there were a good number of stand-offish, low-action/no-action rounds. Much of what he did lacked the usual execution. Fury can look a bit messy at the best of times but, to me, he did look notably less sharp in his movement, had poor timing and judgement of distance.

    I think (and, to an extent, hope) that this indicative of mental unpreparedness rather than physical. That said, he might well have slipped a little. But, indeed, time will tell.
     
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