Video - Usyk the New Lineal?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Aug 21, 2022.


  1. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

    6,108
    4,017
    Jul 24, 2020
    They were the top 2 rated guys.
    That’s how a new lineage is formed.
     
    kriszhao and vast like this.
  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,536
    2,373
    Apr 23, 2022
    rated top 2 by who? according to who?

    the principle of 2 top rated contesting vacant lineal should only be a case where they have eliminated other contenders from consideration & are indisputable number 1 & 2
     
  3. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

    6,108
    4,017
    Jul 24, 2020
    The Ring and TRBR who are the top 2 rankings organizations imo.
    The other part of the argument is your own personal feeling-it doesnt work that way and never has been that way.
    If you are 1 and 2 you are 1 and 2 and there will always be 3 and 4.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    112,986
    48,065
    Mar 21, 2007
    My personal take is we are not idiots :lol:

    I've not watched this one Rummy and I'm at work now so won't get near it - overall though, yeah, Fury retired, but this time he retied before the #1 and #2 ranked contenders met. This called for a decision to be made and I think the right one was to respect his retirement and therefore the new lineage. Fury may fight again and he may not, it may be meaningful and it may not, but Uysk is the champ.
     
    vast, Rumsfeld, Robney and 2 others like this.
  5. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,534
    16,092
    Aug 5, 2020
    If Lennox Lewis entered the ring and fought scrubs in 4 rounders it would take Fury's lineal title? Would it erase Wlad's reign?

    The biggest problem in boxing today is inactivity. Pre-2020 we complained about the best not fighting the best, but now we're lucky if they fight at all.

    We have to rein this in, and it starts at the top. If Fury says he retired, he retired. If the top two fought, the winner is the lineal champ. If he wants the lineal title back, he's gotta go beat Usyk.

    They do love to throw a little eccentric flair into their rankings. Michael Hunter? Andy Ruiz in the top three?

    That's why Fury is popular, he creates absurdities. This one just happened to lose him the lineal title.
     
    kriszhao and Robney like this.
  6. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

    2,202
    1,633
    Jun 26, 2022
    cant blieve how stupid this is you need to beat the man who is the lineal just because fury said he is retired does not mean he is he was holding wbc belt fury has said he has retired more times than i have had hot dinners he talks rubbish he is the lineal champion what a load of rubbish this is
     
  7. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

    2,202
    1,633
    Jun 26, 2022
    lol fury did not retire what planet are you on he is winding folk like you up and you fall for it hook line n sinker yous are all clowns
     
  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

    56,087
    10,493
    Jul 28, 2009
    NOBODY is lineal until they fight James Page.
     
  9. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

    9,479
    10,444
    Nov 5, 2017
    Well, no, because he still holds the WBC title. The WBC is a symbol of officiality in this sport, whether we appreciate the general practices of the sanctioning body or not.

    The man who beat the man is still active, we all know who that is, and Usyk needs to go through him.

    Usyk knows it, too, and that's to his credit. "If I'm not fighting Tyson Fury, I'm not fighting at all."
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

    49,519
    15,938
    Jul 19, 2004
    I respectfully disagree with this take, but that's what I meant - your take on TRBR. :thumbsup:
     
  11. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

    7,602
    1,099
    Jan 8, 2011
    Fury officially retired, thus relinquishing his status as Lineal champion. Period.

    I'm sick of these basic facts needing endlessly repeating to boxing simpletons. Year after year. The rules of the Lineal championship should be stickied at the top of the forum.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2022
    kriszhao likes this.